. -- cnn political commentator alyssa farah griffin -- someone you know well. inside the republican primary electorate right now, how does today's testimony change a view of mike pence? or do you think that was already set because of what happened on january 6th? >> i think the narrative was already set. the wing of the party that showed up on january six that still thinks the election was stolen and that vice president pence had the right to overturn the election, they are never going to be in his camp. what vice president pence would be wise to do, and he's a very savvy political figure -- i think he is key, in my view, and has a real opportunity if he doesn't does end up getting into the race -- is play to the rest of the party. most of us do not think that january 6th was a good thing. we may like the trump policies or some of them, but we don't want trump as a character. naturally, he needs to run it. if he tries to cater to that, vote he will lose, but there is a much broader coalition of republicans would like to see a different direction. >> i will ask

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alyssa farah griffin, senator al franken, linette lopez and john avlon center.i know you're chomping at the bit to talk about this. so what do you think about what's happening in? i mean, pick your state about north carolina, tennessee talk about north carolina. abortion is a huge issue because it's the only state in the southeast that allows abortions so the number of abortions there has gone. i don't know. i don't know what the percentages but by enormous percentage she you referred to her personal story, which is she had a life saving abortion. lemack, who just switched from long time being a long time democrat to this week, declaring herself a republican and then thereby giving a veto proof majority in north carolina. she had a lifesaving abortion and you just heard the chair of her party said that she's not. we're not sure if she still hold the same positions that she held as a democrat. well she ran on that six months ago and on not upholding. abortion and rights. and so that's an enormously important, of course, and it's you know, it's a mystery to me whi

also cnn political commentator alyssa farah griffin and hbo's bomani jones, host of game theory. this case is just so disturbing, so horrific on so many levels. i think that it has been felt from coast to coast of this country, right? the idea. that a black teen goes up to the door to the wrong home and get shot twice. fortunately tonight , he is back at home recovery, which is really incredible. but now the man who shot him has been charged with two felony counts, but you just heard there . laura coates from the prosecutor, saying that there was a racial component in this shooting. why wasn't he also charged with a hate crime? well it seems that in missouri, which is where this is based in hate crime is actually a lesser felony than the two that he was charged with the latter one. the idea of the armed criminal conduct is really an enhancement based on what you're actually using to commit a felony, so i think they're thought there is charged the highest crime possible, even though there's a racial component, because that would put you in a lower rung. but you're absolutely right

alyssa farah griffin, senator al franken, linette lopez and john avlon center.i know you're chomping at the bit to talk about this. so what do you think about what's happening in? i mean, pick your state about north carolina, tennessee talk about north carolina. abortion is a huge issue because it's the only state in the southeast that allows abortions so the number of abortions there has gone up. i don't know. i don't know what the percentages but by an enormous percentage she you referred to her personal story, which is she had a life saving abortion who just switched from long time being a long time democrat to this week, declaring herself a republican and then thereby giving a veto proof majority in north carolina. she had a life saving abortion, and you just heard the chair of her party said that she's not. we're not sure if she's still hold the same positions that she held as a democrat. well she ran on that six months ago and on not upholding. abortion and rights. and so that's an enormously important, of course, and it's you know, it's a mystery to me wh

i want to bring in my panel lz granderson from the los angeles times, alyssa farah griffin, former white house communications director, our law enforcement analyst john miller and jessica washington from the root great to see all of you, john. this is the third night in a row that we have reported on an innocent mistake like this getting someone shot. what is going on in this country. clearly there is some confusion here, and i mean i don't know how we got here. the question is you know the drumbeat of stories about crime going up? you know, all that goes on and that equals fear. and then there's this weird calculus that you know, gun ownership means being able to prevail over fear. and then there's this even stranger and darker calculus, which is well if i use my gun out of fear that i am therefore justified. and it is becoming harder and harder to explain these incidents away. um, except for kind of looking at this phenomenon because we have three kinds of weird gun violence. we have a regular crime guns, criminals using guns to commit crime. we can talk about that. i know my way aroun

. >> and i'm back with alyssa farah griffin and mondaire jones. -- >> i watched, actually, several timesme forget people are kind. -- most don't hate their neighbor. most aren't afraid of their neighbor. and he talks about the big stories that the media is not covering. they show tried to rewrite history. while the other networks are covering actual, real news -- it is welcome to have him off the airwaves. i was concerned about the fact he was -- military bases, he was radicalizing people, some of the things he espoused, particularly with regard to the war in ukraine were very, very dangerous -- but just a tremendous lack of self awareness is so stunning. >> some mondaire? >> i think it's part of his persona, right? he knows that he has lied repeatedly about things. and we have evidence of that now, in the dominion discovery. and so i think this is about preserving his persona for whatever he does next, whether it is starting his own show, or network, or podcast, i guess, or maybe even running for president of the united states senate. but this guy continues to not learn from his mistake

alyssa farah griffin, is she? is she with us? if she is, i'd love her to weigh what he rd in the indictment before coming out, was more than he anticipatedhe obviously went into this knowing it wasn't gonna be aood day for him. you know he's going to be marked in the history books as the fndicd former president buts los like a man who the weight of his actions may be catching up with him, and he feels out of contror the duration of this arrangement. he'ot going. he's not inontrol of the situation. he can't storm out. he can't throw his hands up. he can't you know, jump up and make a scene or calling the cameras. he's so used to controlling all aspects of wt's going on around him, and this is a moment where he's fully out of control. david urban. what are your thgh? when you look at this picture, jake kind of to echo with alyssa says, you know, i've seen the president. look that way during debes. um you know , contempl, but but clear is a situation has never been in before. 's currently in custody as he sits there, um, at that tab