but also, the cuts to the national institute of health, s alzheim alzheimer's research, cancer searchse budgets are as toxic as in i've seen. >> the thing is, they don't even get the conservative bounce out of this, the praise from the far right because it's kind of -- they're not even looking at the part of the budget where we would need to make the cuts. here is what's happening. if you look at the budget in terms of mandatory spending, the part of the budget that's growing out of control is medicare and social security. that is our debt to our elders and society, that we have to figure out a way to fix that. that's where most of the spending is going. what's happening is they're putting the entire burden on the so-called discretionary side. what is that? that is our investment in the future. that's our investment in our roads, in our education of children, and all the things that we need to make our country successful going forward, our future. >> another thing mark sanford said, something the "wall street journal" said a couple days ago, stop with the cutting on discretionary spen