four white officers, 5'6", 150 pounds amadou diallo, 41 shots.as reaching for a wallet. >> the problem was reaching for a gun is a perception. they saw the black man in the vestibule. he had no criminal record. not even a traffic ticket in new york city. retelling the story today is breaking my heart. >> i'm sure. >> because amadou diallo was this young gentlest person. when you see him, when you have a chance to meet i had child -- >> i'm sorry it's breaking our hearts hearing the story again. i have to say i was very touched by her. there's something about hearing a mother say when you meet my child, if you knew my child when she's talking about a grown-up, it touches you in a special way. it's heartbreak. we should tell you that all four officers involved in amadou diallo's death were ultimately acquitted of second degree murder charges. and tony, the thing that struck out to me she never spoken to the media before so imagine what it was like in 1999, you get off this plane from africa, shoved in front of tv cameras and said i just wanted peop

we can go back to rodney king. 30 years ago amadou diallo brutalized. eric garner was killed in new york much in the same way six years earlier. outrage but not international outrage. it's the same between covid and mr. floyd's murder. we are one. we are connected. when you killed mr. floyd, you killed my brother, my family member. >> and i stand with the protestors. >> reporter: just as millions of american families have watched has the cuomo family in a grand house where old and new memories meet. >> all the family holidays were here. my mother did the renovation of the whole mansion. so my mother can walk into a room now, she'll tell you exactly every piece of furniture, every piece of fabric. so there are a lot of great memory. >> reporter: new york's former first lady matilda cuomo hasn't seen the house or her son lately. >> when did you see your mother last? >> oh, breaks my heart. i have not seen her since this started. i put myself in a lot of situations where i might be exposed. my mother is still young, but she is in a category where she is vu

. >>> 41, that is the number of times an unarmed black man named amadou diallo was shot by the new york 1999. the police had thought he might be a criminal they were looking for. he wasn't. they thought he had a gun in his hands. he didn't. it turned out to be a wallet. diallo died in police custody. this is one of the first cases of police violence my next guest looked into and he's been thinking about race, policing and power ever since. the mega best-selling author malcolm gladwell joins me now. malcolm, let me start by asking you about that case which you wrote about because, you know, we can see in the case of george floyd -- this struck me as essentially premeditated murder, but the diallo case is more interesting because we're often told that police are trained. and when you think about 41 shots, one's reaction is, well, they don't seem to be trained very well because that seems like a lot of emotion and not a lot of training. what is going on in those moments? >> the one thing -- i did a podcast episode last season for my podcast "revisionist history" on police shooting and i me

night, including three accused of targeting police with fire bombs eric garner, sean bell and amadou diallosay ending stop and frisk, comprehensive training for every officer has improved policing while admitting nypd has work to do. >> i saw tremendous restraint but also things need to be done better moments that were disturbing >> reporter: more protests are planned, including this one getting under way in times square major cities have imposed curfews to bring down the size of the crowds, new york's mayor says it's not necessary here >>> fiery protests raged in washington, d.c., secret service rushed president trump to white house bunker friday night. senior administration official an hour in the complex designed for terror attacks tracie potts, the president is blaming extremist group for the violence in d.c. >> blaming them and tweeting he wants to declare antifa a terrorist group and some experts question whether the government can do that with domestic group with first amendment rights. all as demonstrations and protests continue in washington, including across the street from the wh

this is a "newsweek" piece called who was amadou diallo and why is the story of his death still relevantn. i don't pretend for a moment to second guess the jury but if i know most people in america of all races believe that if it had been a young white man in an all-white neighborhood it probably wouldn't have happened. do you think things have changed in the way that a jury will look at a police shooting now in the wake of what we've seen with george floyd and all these protests? >> thank you for having me, joy. i am so honored to be talking in this platform with gwen carr and is a sister and belongs to this club that no one wants to be part of. since amadou was killed, my life has been changed forever. i traveled these roads and met some families. i attended the funeral for eric garner. nothing has changed. changes was implemented, but then it was like a bandaid just to try to pretend that we are going to have the in-depth change, that the community asked for, that the people asked for. and how many people have been killed since amadou? how many? how many have been victimized like my c

cameras we have seen example after example after example 29 years since rodney king 20 years since amadou diallo 6 years since eric gardner just weeks since the death of george floyd his cannot be in vain i told his brother that his name will live on in history because the tragedy that he suffered has been the catalyst for what i believe will be profound change and not just change that helps to professionalize police departments not just change that prevents further abuse and deaths but an opportunity for communities through receiving grants to take a look at their community and say well there's all of these issues that we face why should police officers have to address homelessness and mental illness police officers complain all the time they're not social workers that's right so if these grants maybe communities can take an opportunity to read and vision what public safety years and come up with models better models to work with police better models to reduce the problems that wind up needing a police officer so that's what we have an opportunity to do in this congress with this piece of legis

amadou diallo was 23 years old. he was unarmed at the time. reaching for his wallet.ice thought it was a gun. four officers were involved in that shooting. they were all acquitted. needless to say, this has raised very, very painful memories for diallo who says, you know, it's tough for her to realize that after all this time, this is still happening. she has a lot to say. >> yeah, i look forward to that interview and to the broadcast, gayle. >>> attorney general william barr says the decision to force out protesters near the white house a week ago was not related to president trump's photo op that evening. in a "face the nation" interview, barr also denied a cbs news report the president demanded 10,000 active duty troops be deployed on the streets to shut down protests nationwide. cbs news stands by that reporting. retired general colin powell is now backing joe biden for president as ben tracy reports. he's one of a growing number of retired military leaders criticizing the president. >> we have a constitution. and we have to follow that constitution. and the presi

i think we're a lot smarter than we were even when i wrote my book "blink" about the amadou diallo case. and i think it's incumbent upon us to sit down with those people and figure out what are the 20 things we need to do to make the situation better? i say 20 for a reason. there isn't one thing we can do to make it better. it's going to be 20 different things, each of which will make a marginal difference. at the end, hopefully we'll have a structural change in the way that police officers behave. >> always learn from you, malcolm. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you, fareed. >>> next on "gps," a tale of two cities. wuh wuhan, the one-time epicenter of covid-19, is now all but free of the disease and some 10 million people were recently tested there. now beijing is in the midst of its own outbreak. what in the world is happening in china? 300 miles an hour, thats where i feel normal. having an annuity tells me my retirement is protected. protected lifetime income from an annuity can help your retirement plan ride out turbulent times. learn more at protectedincome.org. ♪ ♪ ♪

this was eric garner, it was amadou diallo. it was the same case over and over and still no change.yd's murder, god bless this country for standing up and saying enough is enough. eric garner did not die in vein. sean bell did not die in vein. it took -- it took a number of lives, unfortunately. it took a number of injustices, unfortunately. but each one was a part in getting to today. >> eric garner's mother gwenn carr attended the bill signing ceremony and joins us now. ms. carr, welcome. >> thank you. >> how are you doing these days? are you ok? >> yeah. i've been exhausted but i'm ok. celebrating a little bit of progress. >> what do you think of the policy changes we've seen lately? there's been a lot going on in the last few weeks? do you like what you see? >> yes, i do. i like seeing the protesters out here because we have to do this to bring awareness that there are problems in the u.s. and this is the only way we're going to get attention, although we have to do more that get attention. we have to get those bills signs like i got the eric garner anti-chokehold bill signed an

after amadou diallo was shot, i was pulled over by police officer for a traffic violation, i immediately got out of the car. i did the thing they tell you not to do. their logic is if independent getting o -- i'm getting out of the car, i'm escalating the situation. my logic is if they shoot me, i want the world to see it. the vantage point is very different for someone who has seen george floyd for those 8:46 and thought that could have been me and you respond to a situation very differently. >> if i could add something to that, jelani. that's dear to my heart. i have two sons. every day i'm like what do i say? i have to keep changes my conversations. here's something that i tell my peers. if you police officer feels like he or she can articulate their fear, why can't a black citizen articulate their fear? a black person's peer is real also, jelani. i hear you. that is something we completely ignore in policing. well, the officer has to go home at the end of the day when it should be everyone should have to go home at the end of the day. >> that's so true. >> to your point about trust w

. >> that change of venue plan worked successfully for both the cops in the rodney king and amadou diallo shooting here in new york. no doubt they will try to do it again in this case. katie and enrique, thank you both. >>> new response from nfl commissioner roger goodell who is now admitting the league was wrong for not listening to players who wanted to peacefully protest. >> are his comments enough? a former nfl player shares his perspective coming up. when managing diabetes you can't always stop for a fingerstick. with the freestyle libre 14 day system, a continuous glucose monitor, you don't have to. with a painless, one-second scan you can check your glucose with a smart phone or reader so you can stay in the moment. no matter where you are or what you're doing. ask your doctor for a prescription for the freestyle libre 14 day system. you can do it without fingersticks. learn more at freestylelibre.us. alice loves the scent of gain so much, she wished there was a way to make it last longer. say hello to your fairy godmother alice. and long-lasting gain scent beads. part of the irres

why did it take so long, 30 years ago, rodney king, amadou diallo brutalized, eric garner. i don't know. it's here now. it's a precious opportunity, if you have the social action. people want change. they don't know how to make it happen and they don't exactly know what the change is. what we're doing in new york, because i want new york to lead the nation on this, chris, we have 500 police departments in the state of new york. i sent them all notice, you have nine months to come up with a plan that reinvents your police department as a collaborative. local electeds, community activists, everybody sit at the table and reinvent the police department so there's trust and respect from the community to the police and vice-versa. take this moment, which is beautiful, and this is when change happens, but you need the vehicle to have the actual social action. and that's what we're going to do. take all these phrases, defund the police, demilitarize the police, escalation, more visibility, more transparency, civilian review. okay. what does that mean? and let's do it community by c

and that was right around amadou diallo, why he did that.here we are after the horrific murder of george floyd, we finally got it but every parent, every mother who looks like me understood that scary notion with our kids, with our husbands, with our brothers. i got that call when my son, my youngest son was only 18 years old. and he was quote/unquote on the wrong side of the town. he was stopped, frisked. next thing i know down to the police station, the emergency because he's got a fractured nose. thank god i was able to bring him home. i ache for when valerie, i understood that. and i want to be clear. obviously every police officer is not a bad police officer. my brother bobby was a police officer. he was a transit officer. he worked for new york city transit. he went in there because he wanted to help his community. he spent about six years there. he was 24. he was a -- he is a marine. vietnam vet. went in to the police department. and came out within six years because he was convinced that the department, that the system was designed s

we have seen example after example after example, 29 years since rodney king, 20 years since amadou diallo, six years since eric garner, just weeks since the death of george floyd. his death cannot be in vain. i told his brother that his name will live on in history because the tragedy that he suffered has been the catalyst for what i believe will be profound change. and not just change that helps to professionalize police departments, not just change that prevents further abuse and deaths, but an opportunity for communities through receiving grants to take a look at their community and say, well, there is all of these issues that we face, why should police officers have to address homelessness and mental illness. police officers complain all the time. they're not social workers. that's right. so with these grants, maybe communities can take an opportunity to reenvision what public safety is and come up with models, better models to work with police, better models to reduce the problems that wind up needing a police officer. so that's what we have an opportunity to do in this congress with

we can go back to rodney king, amadou diallo, eric garner was killed in new york much the same way six earlier. outrage, but not the national and international outrage. i think it is because it is the same moment between covid and mr. floyd's murder, we are one, we are connected. when you killed mr. floyd, you killed my brother, my family member. and i stand with the protestors. >> pauley: just as millions of american families have watched history unfold at home, together, so has the cuomo family in a grand house where old and new memories meet. >> governor: all of the family holidays were here. my mother did the renovation of the whole mansion. so my mother can walk into a room now and she'll tell you exactly every piece of furniture, every piece of fabric. so there are a lot of great memories. >> pauley: new york's former first lady, matilda cuomo, hasn't seen the house or her son lately. when did you see your mother last? >> governor: oh, it breaks my house. i have not seen her since this started. i put myself in a lot of situations where i might be exposed. my mother is still young

then you have just countless black men, who have been killed in new york city over the years, amadou diallo, all of these men, and you still have a police force, that i believe, the last few nights, have been meeting protests of police brutality with more police brutality and we need to have a real conversation about what policing actually looks like and we're going to do that here in new york city. >> we should note, since you mentioned mayordy bla de blasio did initially take the side of the officer who drove into the crowd of protesters. let's play a quick clip of what he said earlier today reversing his tone somewhat. >> i didn't like what i saw one bit. i don't want to ever see something like that. i don't want to ever see it again. and clearly, we need to do a full investigation and look at the actions of those officers, and see what is done, and why it was done and what could be done differently. but i want to emphasize that situation was created by a group of protesters, blocking and surrounding a police officer. we need a full and impartial investigation but we need to be clear abo

he's from the city of amadou diallo and abner louima.ther intentional or he has a tin ear. >> yeah, rev, you and joe have been talking for quite some time, for many months about how to express this friction in the country. and actually been talking about a song joe wrote and a music video that put together, which you are featured in, which we are about to show, but i first wanted you to set it up a little bit and talk about this ongoing conversation that you guys have been having. >> you know, joe and i started talking several months ago, as you said, mika. and joe, people don't know, is really a great producer, musician. and he played this song to me, and i said to him, this needs to come out now because it gives us hope. it lifts us. it's gospel oriented in terms of its music but it's not just church gospel. it's gospel in a broader pop sense. to lift us up. and i was saying, if you look back to the martin luther king days movement all the way to the things we do now, there was always the soundtrack of hope. a soundtrack that we shall

amadou was killed in 1999 by police in new york. his death resulted in a rallying cry across the u.s. for change. miss diallo, thank you very much for being here. your son was shot 41 times by four new york city police officers. he was in his own apartment building and so today, as you watch these four officers in minneapolis get charged finally for this -- for excessive force, what are your thought? >> first of all, thank you for having me. i would begin by sending condolences to the family of george floyd for not only losing their brother, their husband, their cousin and now they have tock watch this horrible video on and on again. i cannot even imagine. every tragedy is connected. each time this tragedy happens, we, as families in communities of black and brown people, we go back to reliving our tragedies. those peoples are human. their humanity is very much what need to be talked about. their life has been taken by those who support and protect us and they're taking lives that they have no right to take. i suffer more than 20 years ago when my son was gunned down with 41 bullets. my son was a dreamer. he