amalie cut what would you be doing if you were still there today? max levchin: probably some form of coding. i probably would have started a company. emily: have you been following what has been going on their recently? are you worried about a civil war? max levchin: yes, i am very worried. as an engineer, i always think through -- it is not obvious that there is one. it seems to be at least somewhat contained but it is horrifying. emily: how does that affect you? levchin: i don't feel like i can help the situation. water in aold sheltered, beautiful place to try and change the world. amalie code do you worry it could escalate into another cold war? think the cold war was largely a product of mistrust and disinformation, the people clarity between and between social media and the internet -- that is not possible today. i think the conflicts are unearthed very quickly. frequently resolve it with bullets -- we seem differently resolving with but there are less long-term passive aggressive interactions. emily: having lived there and here, who is to bla

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when you begin to look alt at the spread from pakistan, afghanistan, to amaly, boko haram, nigeria, a lot of these individuals grew up together particularly the leaders where they were in training camps in prince together. you look at an individual like al-baghdadi who is this quote, unquote, caliph in the islamic state -- >> charlie: he heads up the islamic state. >> yeah, twice he was in u.s. detention systems, and the second time turned over to the iraqis and they subsequently released him. so in these various places where these guys operate from they come out and they get right back at it and they have created even more leaders more groups and i think the expansion that we've seen and, frankly from our own u.s. state department, you know where i think, in 2004, we were talking about 21 designated islamic terrorist groups in that part of the world and today we're at 41. designated islamic terrorist groups by our state department. >> charlie: what do they have in common and how are they different? >> what they have in common and this gets at the meat of how we define them. we used t

we came together as one american amalie. in the face of horrific acts of violence, at a sikh temple in milwaukee or a jewish community center outside of kansas city. we've reaffirm their commitment to freedom. the polls to buy the notion that anyone should ever be targeted because of who they are what they look like, or how they worship. most recently with the brutal murders in chapel hill of three young muslim americans, any muslim americans are worried and afraid. i want to be as clear as i can be. as americans all faiths and backgrounds, we stand with you in your grief and we offer our love port. my point is this. as americans, we are strong and resilient. when tragedy strikes, when we take a hit, we pull together. we draw on what is best in our character. our optimism, our commitment to each other, our commitment to our values, our respect for one another. we stand up and we rebuilt, and we recover. we emerge stronger than before. that is who we are. [applause] and, i say this because we face genuine challenges to our se