amanda berry and gina, do they have suicide that she calls it and held them captive, basically, till 2013, 10 years. and then that was 10 years ago since then. illegal immigrants have flown in non stop from 0 to ohio, making up 25 percent of the population of some towns. it doesn't take 25 percent of a town of 50000 to to be bad criminals who just need one. and, and so bad. some of the sewer systems have even can't handle it and put them, residents are complaining about the smell and the view ability to just have sanitation. so it's making it like a 3rd world country. so can, and the cats and dogs thing of course is cultural right. they're using it sometimes from booty rituals, because in haiti that is what they understand and they're not being acclimated when they get here. they're just dropped on the streets. of course they do what they know how to do religiously, and of course not starved to death. so that you, whatever they get their hands on for protein, which could be a cat, could be a dog, could be a swan, could be a duck. it's terrible it back home. they can't just go to the

amanda satterw hite. the panelist, lieutenant general william hartman, deputy commander u.s. cyber command. the director of cia center for cyber intelligence, peter ranks, and matt berryderal chief operating officer, hp federal. let's give a warm welcome. [applause] amanda: thank you for that great introduction. i want to extend my welcome to the -- my appreciation to the entire team for another fantastic program this year. i'm thrilled to be back this year and i could not be more honored to share the stage with this esteemed group of experts to talk about how we might be able to get in front of the adversary and stay in front of the ever-changing landscape of cyber threats. today, let's start by defining proactive defense. pete: peter: thank you to everyone in the room for sticking it out. i think it depends on where you sit. i will speak from the perspective of government and how government agencies would look at proactive defense. for me that means getting out of the defender space, getting out of victim networks, looking at the adversaries who are threatening us and trying to understand where they are coming from, what is motivating them, what type of internet inf

amanda satterw hite. the panelist, lieutenant general william hartman, deputy commander u.s. cyber command. the director of cia center for cyber intelligence, peter ranks, and matt berryral. let's give a warm welcome. [applause] amanda: thank you for that great introduction. i want to extend my welcome to the -- my appreciation to the entire team for another fantastic program this year. i'm thrilled to be back this year and i could not be more honored to share the stage with this esteemed group of experts to talk about how we might be able to get in front of the adversary and stay in front of the ever-changing landscape of cyber threats. today, let's start by defining proactive defense. pete: peter: thank you to everyone in the room for sticking it out. i think it depends on where you sit. i will speak from the perspective of government and how government agencies would look at proactive defense. for me that means getting out of the defender space, getting out of victim networks, looking at the adversaries who are threatening us and trying to understand where they are coming from, what is motivating them, what type of internet infrastructure they have to navigate on a