the plaintiff in the trademark case against the redskins was a navajo and social worker named amanda blackhorseo also protested the cleveland indians who scaled back the use of that logo. blackhorse criticized the kansas chiefs as well and the chiefs are, according to the "kansas star" trying to, "avoid a cultural free for all by forming an alliance with american indian groups." the chiefs have reportedly reached out to several of them. chiefs president mark donovan held meetings with two local american indian leaders in the past week, alone. for the chiefs, like the redskins, indians, chicago blackhawks and other teams with native american names and logos, it's simply getting harder and harder to keep the critics at bay. eleanor holmes-norton is washington's representative, and jacqueline keeler, navajo and co-founder of the group eradicating offensive native mascotry. good evening. >> good evening. >> congresswoman, are we there on this issue yet? >> we have tipped. you've got not only the second time native people have won in the patent and trademark commission. they lost the first time on a