we will go to julia, keith boykin, amanda carpenter. they changed the lineup on me. keith boykin, start us off. we just heard congressman sestak say, no, this is not some republican orchestrated backlash, people are truly concerned. why don't you liberal dems start over and rifle in on the 15 million unemployed people who can't get. >> it you have sarah palin making up distortions and lies about death panels that don't exist. you have this guy at the town hall meeting talking about get your government hands off my medicare not even realizing medicare is a government program and people carrying guns and shouting matches in town hall meetings, you can't have a serious discussion in this context. what's astounding about the two members of congress both have government insurance. they have the option to choose among government or public provider, why can't the american people have the same thing members of congresses. >> unfortunately the plan is so bad even the congressman voting for it don't want to be represented in it. go ahead, greg. >> they don't want it. the peopl

let us bring in mark walsh of air america and host of the sirius radio show, and columnist, amanda carpenter. amanda, good to see both of you, mark, pardon me, but it's a pleasure to see amanda back on the show. amanda, nancy pelosi backed off, but it wasn't quite the read my lips no new gulfstream. >> i think it's interesting that the democrat in the senate, mchaskell sticking out her neck saying she was prepared to find a way to cut it with guys like john mccain, jack reid. so there was a bipartisan coalition in the senate who were saying that we are prepared to cut this out. and if you remember a few months ago, evan bye was going to lead a coalition of democrats to try to hold the president in on spending. so i think that effort didn't go anywhere, but there is still rumblings of it there. maybe we'll see some more efforts like that coming out of that chamber. >> mark walsh, i don't need a leading question, but i think you're going to agree with me. wasn't this a monumental blunder by the speaker for all of the airplanes, but where do we go from here? because the issue is not off the tab

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amanda carpenter, she's a reporter for "the washington times." amanda, i think we all are thrilled that bill clinton was able to get these women out. but as far as bill clinton's legacy, i'll let you have the first crack, how does this change it? >> i think it does change it. he deserves kudos for this. he took a huge political risk in traveling over there, he didn't have to go, he didn't have to chip in and step up to the plate and do this but he did. and it looks like he was successful and i these this certainly helps him with the democratic party. hillary clinton talks about smart diplomat si, and this is maybe a part of that. coming off of that 2008 democratic primary where he was questioned about raising racial issues against president obama. >> there have been some tensions, at least some concerns early on between the obama white house and the clintons and what role bill clinton might play, whether he might prove to be a distraction to secretary of state hillary clinton, his wife. in terms of how the white house will handle this, there's a l

to "washington times" reporter amanda carpenter. what is going on here?> they decided they were going to spend $13 billion to give one-time payments that went out to anybody who was receiving benefits from social security, veterans affairs, where the retirement of the railroad. so if you were receiving those benefits, you got the 250 dollar check, and there were a lot of people who went to jail after those checks went out in may, and there are about 4000 convicts that got checks, and most of them are legitimate. the social security administration says over 2000 of those people are entitled to those checks. there are about 1700 who were not supposed to get the checks, who were in jail during that time period, and they will have to find a way to get it back. that is a small error rate, but this is the kind of things you see when you m&a billions of dollars in free money. neil: -- when you hand out billions of dollars in free money. neil: you are right. it is a small error rate, but now we sent money to dead people, and now the money is going to convicts. th

what jonah goldberg of the national review online writes -- here to react, dana goldstein and amanda carpenteryou start. react to jonah goldberg. is he right? >> no. i think the statement is prettipretty pretty ridiculous. what the insurers are doing is cashing in their chips. they've been funding for years. these politicians are home on recess and are hearing this information and losing their nerve. >> speaking of lies and missi and misinformation, we asked fox news about things that are false -- that's false, but 72% of fox viewers believed it. decisions about elderly care, can the government pull the plug on the elderly. three out of four fox viewers believe that from the bill. it's not. don't conservative media outlets as well as rest of us have the reasonability to inform viewers? >> i don't think anybody's consciously misinforming -- >> you don't? >> the big problem with the health care legislation is that it is so big, there's no final version and nobody knows what's going to be in it. that naturally leads to some confuse. >> but we know what's not in it. there's nothing about providing

also with us, amanda carpenter reporter and blogger for t"the washington times". amanda, you first.ulus helps. your view? >> i think he's making statement that's are very hard to quantify. underneath all his rhetoric about the great depression is his basic argument that because the economy hasn't -- stopped contracting as fast, that is somehow recovery. i don't think it s it's not even clear we're bottoming out or stabilizing. so the -- >> amanda, he's not saying we're in a recovery. he said the stimulus prevented a second great depression. >> right. but what i'm saying is that the premises, because things aren't getting as bad as fast as they were, that somehow things are better. and a lot of other people are taking that as a sign of recovery. i think they're being -- not -- they're going way too fast about that. unemployment is still up. we've taken a massive gamble, a $787 billion. and we're not on our way to recovery yet. i mean we were promised three million jobs to create that and it hasn't happened. >> all right, your view? >> i do think that there are different ways to measu

tanya acker, and nancy skinner, and amanda carpenter and tony fratto, former white house aid to president bush. tanya, the billions of dollars goldman earned means goldman will pay the federal government $5 billion in income taxes this year. why should we be upset gold man is earning money. >> that's all well and good. frankly, i don't think anyone is upset goldman is earning money. what happened was goldman was the beneficiary of the government intervention and lived to do another deal and got a government bailout and taxpayers are confused by that isn't being felt on main street. >> you are saying they lied about the bailout. that is entirely untrue. the company had $10 million in capital and never needed it and paid it back yet you guys won't get out of their face. >> aig, dennis, what about aig. >> exactly. >> i'll bet neither one of you has reported this with wall street sources on aig, i happen to know those $20 billion at risk, aig gave goldman $10 billion in cash and goldman did default swaps with the remainder. goldman would have been covered by aig if it faltered and they did no

joining from us las vegas is amanda carpenter. a reporter for "the washington times."rom los angeles, matthew littman, a former speech writer for joe biden. now, i want to start with you, joe, because it seems like friday nights you are always on the show friday nights when i'm hosting. i want to start with you about the power of palin. was she able to move this debate with the death panel branding? that resonated with a lot of folks across the country. >> i think it resonated with some conservatives and i think more importantly was that charles grassley, basically repeated what sarah palin said the other day. of course, as it turns out, what sarah palin referred to as death panels she was for a year and a half ago when she was governor of alaska. so this is the usual back and forth between sarah palin and sarah palin. laura: how so did she favor a death panel. >> i could read this to you. when she was governor of alaska, she came out for the idea of talking to people about living wills, of the government having having -- paying people back for their living wills. she

amanda carpenter is here. welcome, everybody. there is an unmistakable passion out there. even if somebody is organizing some of these people, when was the last time that we saw rooms fall of a large majority of senior citizens leaving their summertime fun and heading into these rooms? they are passionate. they're there for a reason, obviously. >> they have real feelings and real concerns about health care reform. there is lots of media attention to the prospect of violence, but the real issue is beneath the surface that people have to pay attention to. you can see it in the poll numbers that president obama is showing, numbers with regard to his health care reform policies. people still have less confidence in the republicans, but that is not to say that they're confident that the president's plan for the health- care system will help them and help their personal costs. martha: there is no doubt that this has gotten the attention of the white house. the things we were hearing earlier in the week, references to mob mentality and things like that -- that message seems to be