joining me now, tom goldstein and amanda marcot, a contributor for slate. amanda, since you're sitting here with me, i want to go to you first. you write in your piece that's up today on slate, there might be a short-lived victory on the right over this hobby lobby decision until it sinks in. then insured women will continue to have their contraceptives covered by the insurance they've paid for regardless of their boss' opinions on the matter. explain. >> okay. well, under the exemption that the hhs created for religiously affiliated nonprofits, what happens is if a religiously affiliated nonprofit wants to not provide contraception in their health care plans, what's the -- the government says they have to fill out a form or write a letter saying they don't want to do it. then the insurance company will turn around and offer them the benefit directly, not through their employer. so they get it one way or another. it's just through a little paperwork and the employer is not the person paying for it. i assume, though i don't know for certain yet, that the hhs