let me ask a few questions, amaya understanding we are hiring pilots to put in the cockpit of commercial airlines with 30 or 8090 passengers but we hire some of them for $10 per hour. is that correct? >> mr. chairman the average pay of a regional airline at captain is a $72,000 per year. the average pay of a first officer as eight member airlines is $32,000 that is very comparable to other professions that have lives at stake, medical assistance. >> but i am asking isn't the case we're hiring hiring pilots in the cockpit and paying them $23,000 per year that is $10 per hour roughly. isn't that the case? if it is then one wonders what is the capability of pilates coming out of school with a good many hours that beat the technical qualifications and get hired $10 an hour and live with their parents in seattle and apply to a duty station all night long? at that salary they are going to rent a hotel to get some sleep? i don't think so. my specific question isn't there is significant issue about experience and funding and salaries at the entry-level on some of these airplanes were we are gett