it's going to take a long time for amazonen to get into a place -- it's a capital intensive business them to compete here we have in fedex's case we have earnings coming up next week just taking a look, you'd typically like to look out 60 to 90 days. if you just look a month out after earnings federal express typically moves 7.5% in the month following erpgs. looking out 60 days we are looking at a fairly considerable move right now with options premiums not being eed, despite the fact it's announcing i was looking out to november. you could buy the 260, 280 call spread, the 260 call spraed chading 7.70 when i was looking earlier. the 280s about $1.80 the idea is we get to capture some of the upside we seen the moves in comparable periods when you have earnings can be significant i mean, take a look at the last quarter. stock fell 9% in the month following earnings a couple quarters before that stock rose about 13.5%. here i'm looking at 10% upside 60 days. because the options seem reasonably priced. you can use options on the long side buying premium in situations like this where th