amees dr. anearby adalja from john hopkins center for health security. you've been tweeting about this that beaches were mostly safe, but we saw were not just beaches with people enjoying the water. what we've seen around the country are crowds and crowds of people along beachfronts as well as in bars and in restaurants. >> you have to remember that it's not just going outdoors that spares you from this virus. it's actually social distancing. if you are in a place where you are going to be interacting with other individuals, you're going to give the virus a chance to transmit. so it's important that the outdoors are relatively safe but nothing in this pandemic era is going to be without risk, and you have to really think about what risk you want to put on yourself by exposing yourself to individuals. and that may be different for each person in their risk tolerance, but we shouldn't act as if this virus is not here anymore. >> and just from the numbers, we know that we're not talking about a 1-1 risk here because one person can infect five people or more