whether your helicopter pilot, fixed wing pilot, women in aviation, or forced a friendship up at amelia earhart's hometown of atkinson, kansas. >> a good network. >> yes, yes, a great network today. >> you mentioned all the different types of pilots there can be, and you flown a variety of different aircraft, if i'm correct. was there a favorite that you had? >> yes, steer men, it's an old by weighing, open cockpit airplane, and i owned one as a youngster. well, as a youngster, as a 22 year old and hawthorne, california. silly me, i sold it when i wanted to go overseas, because i couldn't get anyone to work on the radio and jim. jets were just coming in, and of course to find a mechanic to work on a radial or a cylinder type of engine, when they could be working on a jet engine, unheard of. i sold it for, audience will love this, $3,000. today, that airplane is worth, in good shape, 130,000. and i'll go up to somebody and i'll say, i guess, can i have a ride? can i pay for a ride? i used to own one of these, i have about 3000 hours and one, and t sixes, and walk, those all the war birds. well, i