then there is a private conversation between gutierrez and his deputy amena mohammed where gutierrez apparently express his dismay at a call from the commission president to produce more weapons and ammunition for the war in ukraine, which is interesting. and then the deputy, i mean i'm a 100 also talks about a recent summit of african leaders apparently and says that she feels that can use president william router is ruthless and she doesn't trust him. and not are any further clues as to who licked him. no, i mean this is the big question. there are clues in the actual screen grabs and pictures of some of the documents that whether there is a red herrings or not, we don't know, we'd have the department of justice in the u. s. as an investigation underway, and at the defense secretary lloyd austin said that every rock will be turned over to find the source of the leaks. but, you know, kelly, this is doing a lot of us probably a lot of people. so maybe the americans were leaking as opposed to both of the case, but ukraine needs more weapons. but now it's pretty clear that no, i'm happ