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>> that was one of the questions i asked amendola, and the answer is online. his, paraphrasing his answer, he felt they were in a position where the court of public opinion had more than convicted him. they had convicted him ten times over, and that they had to put out some sort of counterpoints, and this was their attempt to do so. >> last night, the lawyer told you on "rock center" that they believed they had found the young man in the 2002 incident and he said it didn't happen that way. i thought this morning with ann curry, the lawyer backed off that a little bit, saying "we think we found him." >> yeah. >> seems to me they're trying to establish factual innocence here. >> well, if they have found him, and if, in fact, it is the child in question, now a young man, and if he disputes -- he, the alleged victim -- disputes mcqueary's account, then that obviously greatly helps amendola and sandusky. >> quickly, what he said about paterno, having never approached him about any of these allegations. >> never, never. and paterno saw him many times subsequent to w

and jerry, by the way, had six adopted kids and three foster kids. >> reporter: amendola says if his client is guilty, he should go to prison for life. but says he doesn't believe that's the case. and points to the decision to investigate sandusky through the grand jury system as proof of a lack of evidence. amendola says pennsylvania's governor, who was the attorney general when the investigation began, had the power to arrest sandusky immediately. but instead, chose to leave him on the streets. >> if you believe that jerry sandusky was a pedophile, you have to believe there was a substantial risk. while you were continuing a three-year grand jury investigation, which could have resulted in an arrest with the first boy coming forward three years ago. >> reporter: here on the campus, the students themselves are getting a break from the scandal. they're on thanksgiving break. but the university moved ahead already during this break to appoint louis freeh, the former fbi director, to head their investigation. and he promises an independent one that can look at anybody who was involved

amendola also revealed the defense's strategy. attack the credibility of two alleged victims, and key witness, mike mcqueary, who, again, friday, refused to speak about the case. >> i don't have anything to say. i'm sorry. okay? please leave, okay? >> reporter: this statue of joe paterno was put up outside beaver stadium here ten years ago. there were several reports this week that penn state was considering taking it down in the wake of his firing. but the university insists that is not the case. that they have much bigger issues to deal with. dan? >> t.j., you talked about the second mile, the charity started by jerry sandusky. there's a possibility, as you mentioned, they may shut down. what are the other options for this organization, given that they serve, i believe, 100,000 children? >> reporter: that's right, dan. they actually say if they don't shut down, at the very least, they would have to reorganize or maybe even transfer some of their programs to other nonprofits in the area. >> t.j., thanks for your reporting this mo

. >> amendola is worried for his client's well-being. he told his clients to leave state college, pennsylvania. he told his attorney, he will be recognized by the public no matter where he is. we'll have more on the scandal when bob costas joins us live on morning joe. you want to stick around for that. >>> now to some 2012 politics. days after texas governor rick perry infamous oops moment at the michigan presidential debate, republican rival herman cain had a similar brain freeze during an interview with the editorial board of the milwaukee journal sentinel newspaper. former godfather's pizza ceo got hung up when talking about libya. >> so you agree with president obama on libya or not? >> libya? president obama supported the uprising, correct? president obama called for the removal of gadhafi. make sure we're talking about the same thing before i say yes i agree or no i didn't agree. i do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason. no, that's a different one. i got to go back. got all this stuff twirling around in m

the aforementioned joe amendola is joe sandusky's attorney. he now joins us. thank you for being here and good morning. >> you're welcome. >> did you know that jerry sandusky was going to speak out? was that with your blessing and why, if that's so? >> we had talked about it, and i explained to jerry that this was an opportunity for him to tell people how he felt and what has happened in his life, and the fact that he's not guilty of these offenses, and he took that opportunity. in fact, jerry's wanted to talk about this for a long, long time, going back over three years with the first allegation that set forth in the alleged victim number one narrative and the presentment that was fought against. >> one of the quotes from him is that "i shouldn't have showered with those kids." why would your client continue to shower with boys, just on that point alone, even after a mother complained to him that it was inappropriate? why would he continue to do it? >> and the easy answer is he didn't use a whole lot of common sense. because obviously, he had the warning in t

his dog this morning, sandusky refused to discuss the latest accusations, but his attorney, joe amendolaconfirms a report in a local newspaper that one of sandusky's new accusers is from his own family. and in an e-mail to the media, also goes on to say, quote, the allegations are ridiculous and unfounded. as the investigation continues to grow, so do questions about governor tom corbett's role in the controversy. he was the attorney general and member of the penn state board of trustees during the grand jury investigation of sandusky three years ago. during that time, never shared any information with the school. >> i gave thought to it on a constant basis. we are very careful about how we reveal it. >> the grand jury manual, though, seems to indicate he could have shared at least some of the information. >> look, there is no question that everyone in this process, the penn state officials to even my good friend joe paterno, everyone in this process didn't act swiftly enough, didn't act courageously enough. >> reporter: also tonight an attorney for one of the men identified as a victim

one of the egg things, one of the additional things amendola told us he repeated his claim that he foundictim 2, the victim identified in the grand jury report the young boy who was in the shower with sandusky, the incident seen allegedly by mike mcqueary. he says that this victim tell as very different story and that nothing whatsoever sex all took place and this person described as victim by the grand jury actually attended sandusky family events. he is now trying to be able to prove in fact the individual he is talking with can be identified as victim number two because that incident took place about a decade ago, convincing that, including that, convincing people of that though is going to be a difficult task. jenna? jenna: the voice of the victims in all this, alleged victims in all this is a voice that's been tough to hear at this time. david lee miller thank you very much with the breaking report out of pennsylvania. more as we get it. jon? jon: right now, jenna, detectives are reopening an investigation into the hollywood mystery, the death of actress natalie wood 30 years after

young boys currently under 18 years old, one of the accusers, according to sandusky's attorney, joe amendola, a member of sandusky's own family. he calls the allegations ridiculous and unfounded. and there are continued questions as the attorney general and a member of the penn state board of trustees, he didn't suggest that that group take a closer look at sandusky. and penn state played its final game. fans althou ss at a local sport a lot to cheer about. they lost. they are eligible for a postseason bowl game. but some of the cities that host the bowls may not deliver ab invitation because of the scandal here. >> nbc's jay gray, thank you. >>> police are trying to talk to the woman accused of attacking other shoppers with pepper spray. she surrendered friday night, but refusing to talk about the incident. at least 20 customers suffered minor injuries. >>> and nasa's mission to mars is rocketing toward the red planet. the biggest and betty kwiptebes robot will look for signs of life on mars. >>> despite a midnight deadline, few occupy l.a. protesters taking down hundreds of tents they put

people may be skeptical of that but that is what amendola told me. >> did he have any conversations with to him about this? >> i asked sandusky and he said no. that paterno never asked about his behavior or expressed disapproval or suggested counseling, never treated them when their paths crossed as some sort of pariah. he said we weren't perhaps as close as i wasn't coaching and didn't socialize but when he saw me, which i take was fairly frequently, there were no expressions of disapproval. >> mike mcqueary put out an e-mail that we have obtained, other news organization have obtained to friends explaining himself. i did the right thing. you guys know me. the truth is not out there fully. i didn't just turn and run. i made sure it stopped. i had to make quick, tough decisions. >> yeah, the way i understand that, lawrence, he's saying that once he stumbled upon this scene, as he describes it, either his mere presence or maybe he said hey or something that got sandusky to stop. he didn't physically restrain sandusky or hold him for authorities or punch him in the nose as you might expect

. >> reporter: joe amendola says doesn't regret his client's recent televised interview. >> i think it helped us because i think rather than having people commenting that jerry's lawyer is spinning his case, i think people needed to hear from jerry that he was innocent, that he didn't commit the acts with which he's been charged and i think the more he gets out in the public eye and the more he speaks, i think the more people will understand that's just jerry's mannerisms, the way he answers questions, his thoughtfulness. his thinking process takes his tame. >> reporter: sandusky is charged with 40 counts of sex -- his time. >> reporter: sandusky is charged with 40 counts of sexual abuse of minors over a 15 year period. charges are also against administrators for failing to report the incident. ncaa says it will investigate penn state examining the school's exercise of institutional controls of its athletic programs. david lee miller, fox news. >>> a plane crash has killed two oklahoma state university women's basketball coaches. last night osu's head women's coach kirk budke and assis

. >> here's sandusky's lawyer, joe amendola. >> we expect we're going to have a number of kids.-called eight kids, we're not sure. we anticipate we're going to have at least several of those kids come forward and say this never happened, this is me, this is the allegation, it never occurred. >> is this attorney trying to intimidate alleged victims who could possibly come forward to testify? how do you view that? >> you know what, ed, i really don't think so. i really think this attorney is so far off base. he doesn't have a plan. that's the only thing you can conclude. look, what he did with that interview, ed, actually could interfere with sentencing. if sandusky says, look, i want to enter a plea of no contest, this judge could say, really, let's take a look at what you've said in that interview, let's look at your prior acts, let's look at all this and what we can conclude is you have no lack of remorse. you're unwilling to admit what you've done. you're willing to place the blame on witnesses and victims and so every time this lawyer takes him further down that road, i am te

his lawyer amendola should be disbarred.of the most ridiculous disgraceful performances i've ever seen. first of all, i don't believe a word sandusky says. i don't think anyone does. as i say, he's incriminated himself merely by being in the shower and this vague, well, i kind of touched their leg. his reputation of mcqueary is completely not credible. mcqueary is coming out saying that he tried to stop it. i think mcqueary would know the difference between anal intercourse and the snapping of a towel. there are too many allegations against this man, and his effect was eerie. he was flat, has no remorse. a classic, delusional narcissist monster. >> his attorney is going to say that my attorney is innocent and try to explain some of these situations. from the outside, i'm going to tell you, showering with children, a man is 50 showering with children at night by themselves, i mean, to the average person, it just doesn't seem appropriate, but then you hear his attorney say, look, he's a big kid. he's a jock. that's what jocks

in that e-mail, amendola goes on to say "the allegations are ridiculous and unfounded." >> sandusky's attorney needs to come up with a theory of defense for each and every allegation. >> reporter: attorney david schwartz is not involved in the penn state case, but says it doesn't take inside knowledge to know what could come next. >> if the new charges are filed, sandusky will be brought back to this judge, the judge could either set the same bail conditions, the judge could raise the bail, or the judge could remand sandusky, which would mean he would go directly to jail. >> reporter: former pennsylvania governor ed rendell argues new charge s ss could have an even broader impact. >> everyone in this process didn't act swiftly enough, courageous enough. why this happened, we look at it, it's just unbelievable. >> reporter: as the search for answers continues, the future of the charity founded by sandusky is unclear. there are reports from an attorney from one of his initial accusers that filed an emergency motion, asking a state judge to block the second mile charity from transferring

amendola says he couldn't have conducted those sexual assaults because there were always people around. >> a lot of people have sex in hotels. >> you're right, but this is a house, and the house was full of people. jerry, built way, had six adopted kids and three foster kids. >> sandusky is charged with molesting eight boys in a 15-year time frame, some of them at penn state's athletic facilities. >>> shocked and appalled. that's how the head of new york's board of regions said she felt after seeing uc davis pepper spraying occupy protesters. take a look. . the chancellor of uc davis has apologized in person to students. here's what she had to say. >> i am appalled by what happened on friday. if you think you don't want to be students of a university like we had on friday, i'm just telling you i don't want to be the chancellor of a school we had on friday. >> the campus police chief and two other officers are on paid leave while a task force investigates. let's get you back to egypt's tahrir square now, with protesters raging there for a fourth day. organizers today called for a millio

. >> well, joe amendola also says that after that incident in 1998, sandusky was just trying to make things better. that's why he apologized. but he said he never thought he had done anything wrong. that's why he didn't see a problem continuing to shower with young boys. kyra? >> all right, jason carroll at penn state there, jason, thanks so much. >>> in less than 15 minutes from now, we'll talk to a state senator from pennsylvania. he wants to beef up the legal requirements for reporting child sexual abuse. wane fontana joining me live at 9:15 eastern time. >>> well, for the second week in a row, republicans stumbles and suffers an embarrassing memory lapse. this time, it's herman cain. the setting, a meeting with the editorial board of milwaukee herald sentinel. >> so you agree with president obama on libya or not? >> okay, libya. president obama supported the uprising, correct? president obama called for the removal of gadhafi. just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing before i say, yes, i agree. i know i didn't agree. i do not agree with the way he handled it for