we will tolerate a president who is dull, not particularly bright, or evenorin t the amerans ll not tolerate a president who is seen as weak. >> he ought to be able to hold his own on foreign policy. the line of attack has already been set with paul rain. now it is up to obama to respond to that. there will be no surprises. this is a test -- >> he reads talking points every morning? >> they call me at 6:00 a.m. every morning. [laughter] i tell them, yes. but that is better than what you guys do, which is to receive the talking points. [laughter] i think mark is exactly right. what was really devastating in that debate was the perception of the president as weak and as romney as presidential. that is the key difference. in 1980, people did not want to re-elect jimmy carter, but they were not prepared to go to reagan because they were afraid of him as a right-wing nut. they said he is not a guy who will blow up the world and the election was over. now obama is not where carter was. he is much stronger. but ron is not where reagan was. but he is still on the edge. -- but romney is not where rea

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investors were encouraged by a report showing that ameran report showing that american s ctoriewere busy in september.or a popular index of national factory activity rose to 51.5 last month, from 49.6 in august. it was the fastest pace of production since may. but that upbeat news was overshadowed by comments from federal reserve chief ben bernanke, saying the economy is not growing fast enough to bring down the unemployment rate. we'll have more on that in a moment. those two events led to volatile trading here on wall street. the dow rose about 78 points, but was up as much as 155 points earlier. the nasdaq drifted in and out of positive and negative territory, finally losing more than 2.5 points, and the s&p rose almost four points. and, as suzanne pratt reports there are conflicting views on the state of american manufacturing. >> reporter: from cardboard boxmakers, to icemakers, to uniform manufacturers, factories across the u.s. are once again humming with activity. sure, the pace of production is slow but, there are some hopeful signs about the future. namely, the new orders index

one n 6 amerans will get sick from food poisoning is year.steps at foodsafety.gov. >> the recession was brought on by a greedy wall street corporations. people know they are suffering because of wall street excess. that is true. john: no. even my colleagues did not get it. the economy has a boom and bust government made our last one worse by interfering giving out guarantees and subsidies. wall street was greedy but that is not new. everyone wants more. did you turn down a raise? i don't. the beauty of the free-market is the market regulates greed. the next guy offers it for less and you lose. it is tempered by competent -- competition. the left says it is through government but the free-market or greed works better. i'm about to eat this juicy steak. how did i get it? in new york city? try have this because the reinsure wants to be good to me? no. because thousands of people care about themselves. i learned this years ago. >> at the farm saddling up for another 14 hour workday. >> they're so much work fences, ditches, beating the cows, harve

it's a measuring stick that everybody uses, but for amerans around the country, income is not a goods story. we are worse off than four years o when the president assumed office, assuming you were employed at all. median incomes tanked, 8% fall in four years. swing states across the country, the news is the same, that is. lookt ohio where both candidates are campaigning today. incomes ll from $5051 to $45749 in just four years. now, the good news, unemployment fell from 8.6% to 7.2%, but the sting of the great recession never really left. foreclosures, for example, remain high. in florida, where obamacare struck a nerve with the statings nearly 3 million seniors, income femme to 42499 and same goes for colorado which sawincomes fall from nearly $60 # ,000 a year in 2007 to around $55,000. in virginia, which has some of the nation's highest incomes, they saw an average salary of $6000 drop to under $62,000. iowa and wisconsin have incomes that have actually risen in the last year, but they are still down from 2007. people look at the states where resident faced aoss of $5,000 in incom

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presidency and other terrorist attacks in benghazi in the murders of our ambassador and three other amerans the 1-month anniversary of the tragedy, the moderator of the debate, abc news correspondent asked mr. biden why the administration had initially talked about protests and demonstrations in benghazi when there were nine. he replied that that was what the intelligence community had told the white house. interjecting that the council had asked for more security. having blamed intelligence for the initial state, the vice president said he and president obama were not to blame for lack of security that the main factor they did not even know there have been a request for more security. >> we were told there was more security. we seven to 85 we said exactly what the intelligence units a list that they knew. lou: biden blaming the intelligence community and directly contradicting sworn testimony at a congressional hearing on wednesday where state department officials say they have requested security in had been denied. >> it was a struggle and remained a stroke throughout my time. searle to o

. >> rose: generation of amerans? generation of international -- >> starting in america and influencing the world. >> rose: good for you. >> yes, so we have this concert. >> rose: and there's a new c.d. out which i have in my hand which is called the chopin album. a favorite for you or -- >> there are a lot of my favorite songs which i practice really hard when i was a kid and now i start practices like oh, it's getting easier. >> what composer is hardest for you? >> i would say braums. >> rose: really? >> yah, brahms. >> rose: and why is that? >> his personality is a very strong personality and the music is always going deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper. somehow when you play his music you need to be completely quiet and let the air flows. >> rose: when you have had your success, do you still have teachers? >> yes, i do. i have a few wonderful teachers >> rose: those are -- they were conductors as well. >> absolutely. >> rose: and what did they give you? how did they take these remarkable musical skills you hav

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