mark: i envision an amerco with the national defense that is unencumbered by overseas nationbuilding. [applause] i envision a national defense that employs peace through strength. john: that would be a reason to stand by rand, but if you're looking for a reason to stand against him, here is a different talking point. >> rand paul is wrong, and dangerous. tell him to stop siding with obama, because even one iranian bomb would be a disaster. john: that was quite a welcome to the race. as you know, lindsey graham and others are hard on this as well. do the justice of the peace folks not like his ideas, or are they afraid of him in some way? mark: i think they are afraid his ideas could catch fire. on one hand they say this shows people are afraid of rand, and on the other hand dentists a lot of money to be dropped on the head still defining himself. john: loose talk about seven figures. i've not seen any confirmation of what the actual ad is. there is no doubt that there is an ideological split. it feels emboldened, and the want to crush anybody on the ideological grounds. they feel it i