the american family association official who appeared on the stage after mitt romney actually has said that the constitution applies to only christians really yes he has. well you know i mean he lives in his own universe but there's other people who want to buy into that there's a it's you know it's a real kind of cultural a very particular cultural you but it's very easy to get caught up in the bigotry show. which was very carefully orchestrated to. mitt romney in my view you know co-sponsors was the american family association so they put bryan fischer on the stage right after romney knowing romney would have to we speak to some other things that he is but he's also very anti mormon and and made those comments to reporters later about that and you had the jeffress show and then you had bill bennett coming on to sort of shake his finger at everybody and say just you know you're not playing nice but you can speak so you kind of like was like you know the outsider who could sort of get away with that and they could you know be polite about it and then went back was a mormon himself came

objective group thank you very much i see shows like this these are statements from the american family association homosexual agenda represents a clear and present danger to every fundamental right given to us by our creator in the constitution. the gets the goal the hope you'll join the. age of consent what do you mean eric we don't consider the bible to be i hate book no i don't the sort of the bible would you hate but i consider the groups you know hey we were his agent because there is nobody to consider but not answer the question about about this organization i would opt out of school my entire life and would you consider verses in the bible concerning say homosexuality b.c. . i think are there any in the new testament though i think we think of it like we look at it this is the old ghost image of the we didn't i mean i think that there was something about how dated it would go to the new ones in the old testament right next to no one to say you should be stoned or leave if you talk back with you there is that you can't just sequester the voter value summonses some sort of irrelevancy this r

summit is all about you know it's basically the christian right is being put on by the american family association i believe it is and. why would they a do it on the weekend that is the high holy days of one of the major religions in this country. and b. why you know when there are so aggressive about basically backing the republican agenda why are they ignoring matthew twenty five you know the core of christianity these this is the this is the christian right that is meeting and you know there's only one place in the bible where jesus was confronted by his disciples and said how do we get into heaven and he said you know he said i was hungry and you gave me something to eat you know in the last days he's he's separating the sheep from the goats he says i was thirsty you gave me something to drink i was a stranger you invited me and i needed clothes you clothed me i was sick and you looked after me i was in prison you came to visit me and the disciples were freaked out they said hey wait a minute we never saw you on how are we going to get him and he said as you have done under the least of these

i was asking about the language from the american family association. whether governor romney was right to say that poisonous language does not advance our cause. you heard mr. fischer talk about the homosexual agenda. you heard him talk about all of islam. you heard him talk about those who believe in evolution. what did you think of that? >> well, it lacks basic civility that sit what creates a good civic dialogue. in our community we have taken on discrimination. we have passed the nondiscrimination ordinance that eliminates discrimination against lgbt community and housing and employment. the first portion that spoke up against it was the lds church. wave long way to go to bring people together. we find that i can tell you, as mayors in this country, for our job is to take care of the basic needs of people. that the kind of bickering and disservice that is done by our elected officials in washington, d.c. and by others to create the divisiveness and not address the real issues in a sensible way is really counterproductive to what we need in this eco

. >> outraged outcry online from the american family association. >> accusing the network of pushing a homosexual agenda. >> it's possible that if someone is celebrated and lifted to heroic proportions like that of a civil rights leader that somebody who is somewhat uncomfortable with his or her gender might say, you know what? i'm going down that road. (audience reacts) >> jon: and while it's not possible, it is possible. (laughter) so i had a choice as a parent-- miss the only show that makes me feel young... (laughter) or spend a month preparing my children for the confusion of seeing a man named chaz dance on a show. (laughter) now, kids, i know you didn't ask me but let me explain hetero normative behavior to two people who still believe in cooties. (laughter) the truth is, the only thing they didn't understand about the chaz bono story was how his parents ever got together. (laughter) daddy, how did the pretty bird lady end up with the trolly mustache king? (laughter) i know it was the '70s, but come on! so prepared, i feel there's nothing on dancing with the stars that could p

the american family association, also based in mississippi, has put all of its weight behind passing this thing. the american family association is super fringy but also a big deal now in republican politics, a major sponsor of the values voter summit where every candidate for president except for jon huntsman showed up this year. they organized the big prayer rally in texas with rick perry this summer. the personhood amendment in mississippi has gone from the wing nut secessionist thing to being something that has a lot of conservative organizational weight behind it. it also has conservative personality behind it. mike huckabee decided to be a celebrity endorser for the mississippi personhood amendment and can use his fox tv show to advocate for it which is where he got supposedly not that socially conservative, not that wing nutty mitt romney to endorse this thing. >> would you have supported the constitutional amendment that would have established the definition of life at conception? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. now, that has a whole bunch of potential consequences. if a fertile

when they go, they'll be sharing the stage with people like brian fisher and the american family association politics of the republican party? >> well, i think there's a simple way to put it. and that is this is religion masquerading as politics. and what happened, you know, you introduced me before the break as someone who had been part of the religious right at the very beginning, especially in the antiabortion movement. what we did back in the '70s and '80s was simply first of all to be agitators knocking on the door of the republican party. if you update to the present moment with candidates like rick perry, michele bachmann running and the values conference, people like brian fisher now showing up on the same platform as these candidates, you realize that those of us who used to be agitators on the outside have now become the insiders actually running for office. and so i think people make a mistake by not realizing these are very serious folks. what they're serious about it not politics. i think that's where the mainstream media really misunderstands the situation. they're serious abou

that would be the director of issues analysis for the american family association, brian fisher. turns out he has a long history of bashing the candidate's mormon faith. let's listen to his comments from earlier this week. >> mormonism is not an orthodox christian faith. it's just not. it was very clear that the founding fathers did not intend to preserve automatically religious liberty for nonchristian faiths. so when mormonism came along, they practiced polygamy. they believed in polygamy, just like muslims do today. >> well, the only person who ought to be embarrassed by that statement or any of this awkwardness is the man who made that statement. religious liberty in this country is religious liberty. simple. that's all for "hardball." up next, "your business." e. man: yes it was. so to save some money, we taught our 5 year old how to dunk. woman: scholarship! woman: honey go get him. anncr: there's an easier way to save. get online. go to geico.com. get a quote. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. prego?! but i've been buying ragu for years. [ thinking ]

romney made no mention of pastor jeffers' comment, but did take aim at a director of the american family association who had denounced mormonism earlier. romney saying quote, decency and civility are values, too. >> poisonous language doesn't advance our cause, it's never softened a single heart nor changed a single mind. the blessings of faith carry the responsibility of civil and respectful debate. the task before us is to focus on the conservative beliefs and the values that unite us. let no agenda narrow our vision or drive us apart. >> continuing his push in new hampshire, mitt romney holds a town hall in milford, new hampshire later today. it comes as a new wmur granite state poll showing the former massachusetts governor with 37% support in new hampshire, a wide lead there. herman cain, at 12%, followed by ron paul with 9%. but look down the list there, rick perry with only 4% support in the state of new hampshire. >>> around the world, deadly violence breaking out in cairo, as christian demonstrators clashed with security forces after a recent attack on a community church. at least 24 people

. >> romney accused brian fisher of the american family association of crossing the line about his mormon beliefs. >> mormonism is outside the mainstream of christian. that's not majority. that's not a slam. that's just a statement of objective historical fact. >> fisher's comments came a day after rick perry supporter, preacher robert said, he would not vote for romney because he's a mormon. >> historic christianity has always treated mormonism as a cult. it does not embrace christianity. >> he introduced perry at the washington gathering. the texas governor was asked about the minister's cult remark friday. >> mormonism a cult? >> no. >> a cbs news poll reveals 42% of white evangelicals said most people they know wouldn't vote for a mormon. during the primary in 2008, evangelicals made up 44% of a republican voters. >> there are some things that concern me about that religion. >> i don't think it should be an issue. >> perry avoided religion questions and instead stayed on point, talking about immigration and the economy. cbs news. >>> this isn't the first time romney's religious belief

that would be the director of issues analysis for the american family association, brian fisher. turns out he has a long history of bashing the candidate's mormon faith. let's listen to his comments from earlier this week. >> mormonism is not an orthodox christian faith. it's just not. it was very clear that the founding fathers did not intend to preserve automatically religious liberty for non-christian faiths. so when mormonism came along, they practiced polygamy. they believed in polygamy, just like muslims do today. >> well, the only person who ought to be embarrassed by that statement or any of this awkwardness statement, is the man who made that statement. religious liberty in this country is religious liberty. simple. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. up next. the "i'll sleep when it's done" academic. for 80 years, we've been inspired by you. and we've been honored to walk with you to help you get where you want to be. ♪ because your moment is now. let nothing stand in your way. learn more at keller.edu. her morning begins with arthritis pain. that's a c

ryan fincher, respected by the american family association, who in the past has made comments similar to those about mormons and also about gay americans as well as islam is a violent state. mitt romney was talking about that. earlier in his remarks, directly took on jeffress and he's a radio host and political commentator who took on jeffress for what he called -- he hit it out of the park. those words were key to reporters because yesterday those were the same words that rick perry used, hitting it out of the park, in describing robert jeffress who later on called mormonism a cult. >> there is all of the background right there. carrie, thank you for that. and i'm joined this morning by the pastor at the center of the controversy at the value voter summit. pastor robert jeffress, welcome to the program. >> thank you, alex. >> would you intentionally say this to help the perry campaign and did you expect all of this reaction? >> alex, first of all, i never said anything about a cult or mormonism. i never mentioned mitt romney in my introduction of governor rick perry. this came about

romney had something else to say about a gentleman by the name of brian fisher with the american family association. he's another prominent social conservative who has criticized mormonism and mitt romney said that poisonous language, in his words, does not advance our cause and has never softened a single heart nor changed a single mind. just for a brief few moments, mitt romney talked about his faith. here is what he had to say. >> our heritage of religious faith and sole rans has importantly shaped who we become as a people. we must continue to welcome faith into the public square and allow it to flourish. our government -- our government must respect religious values, not silence them. we will always pledge our allegiance to a nation that is under god. >> now, the romney campaign, those that are close to mitt romney and the candidate himself, t.j., all thought they had dealt with this back in 2008 when the former massachusetts governor ran for president, he gave a big speech at texas a& m talking about his faith and trying to put this behind him. but make no mistake, it is bag in a big way. it

he is with the american family association, that is a prominent social conservative organization.t's also the organization that was involved with rick perry for that prayer event that was held in august called the response. you'll remember that, t.j. and brian fisher, i just heard a few moments of his speech just a little bit ago where he said that -- he basically said that the country needs a true christian in the white house again, taking a dig at mitt romney, saying mitt romney is not a true christian. i want to say mitt romney did sort of address this controversy in his speech. i don't know if you saw that or heard that at the beginning of the speech, t.j. mitt romney said bill bennet, the speaker before romney, bill bennet went after that pastor in that speech, strongly condemning those remarks and reminded the voters here at this summit that george washington believed in religious freedom. so bill bennet went right after this contcontroversy. and when romney got up to give his speech, he said, quote, i think bill bennet hit it out of the park. it's no accident that he used t

and brian fisher of the american family association said, "cain's position could have come right outthe planned parenthood playbook." herman cain. the more we learn, the more concerned we become. >> wow. you know, ron, herman cain sounds like my dad used to talk. yeah, i'm pro life, but it's up to the woman. >> exactly. >> i'm not sure he's unlike so many people -- i mean, he's pro choice. but he thinks he's pro life because that sounds better. >> that's exactly right. he has to be pro life because he's running as a republican here. listen, he's not a serious political candidate. but the fact that we're talking about herman cain as a potential front-runner in the republican primaries here points to the paucity of the republican field. i mean, i guess if you squint your eyes real hard, mitt romney looks like he could maybe sort of be president. but none of the other people in this fight look like they belong anywhere near the oval office. it's really striking. >> last word from you. would you agree with that? this is a weak field. >> well, unbelievably. and i'm waiting for rick santor

and brian fisher of the american family association said "cain's position could have come right out ofarenthood playbook. herman cain, the more we learn, the more concerned we become. >> wow. you know, ron, herman cain sounds like my dad used to talk. yeah, i'm pro-life, but it's up to the woman. he thinks he's pro-life, because it sounds better. >> that's exactly right. he has to be pro-life. listen, he's not a serious political candidate, but the fact that we're talking about herman cain as a potentiality front-runner in the republican primaries points to the paucity of the republican field. if you squint your eyes real hard, mitt romney looks like he maybe be sort of president, but none of the other people look like they belong anywhere near the oval office. it's really striking. >> last word from you. do you agree with that? this is a weak field. >> unbelievably, and i'm waiting for santorum to make his surge, maybe gary johnson? i don't know. >> i've watched the luck of barack obama all my life -- since he started, he's had no real opponent except for alan keyes. hillary took the

but i'm proud to be work alongside the american family association. sometimes on their radio show. host: wheng things like this come out what brian fisher says and the controversy surrounding governor perry, does it make it more difficult for the frc to go out and recruit supporters who will sign on to be part of the movement and to work in this kind of a political organization? guest: well, i think what we need to do in those situations is make it make a sil purse out of a pig's ear in that we can use these opportunities to share about the religion, differing religions, differing values that we have. i grew up in a small town in upstate new york and i thought there were only two religions growing up, irish roman catholic and italian roman catholic and i was happy to be educated differently after that. so we should look at these -- i hope they happen less but we should look at these as educational opportunities. host: our next call comes from fort lauderdale, flay. martha on our line for democrats. caller: i had a comment in reference to many of the p

[cheers and applause] and let's hear it for the american family association action.rs and applause] that's right. another one of our fine sponsors batting for us, number 44. would you welcome to liberty university in liberty salt. [cheers and applause] and last and certainly not least, to please welcome and thank frc action. [applause] yes, thank you. we are starting with the wave. now that would've been really cool. but enough. we also have a number of other cosponsors and exhibitors that were very proud to have part of our meeting. why did you meet them come to support them. the first things first, we want to open the values voter summit in a word of prayer by going to god who gives us our values. coming to lead in this prayer is a young lady we want you to meet, we see breakneck pace. she is a high school student and she was -- she decided she wanted to give a voluntary verse prayer despite strict rules from school leaders against it also a threat or the aclu if she tried it. she decided to obey god rather than man and she did it anyway. [cheers and applause] [che

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family. finally, the heart of what happened this past week, a fund- raiser for the american heart association. we had a goal of 100 employees and $5,000 raise. he had 139 employees. folks were doing a good thing on their lunch hour, something that was healthy for them and good for the community. kudos for the family that participated into a time out of their day to do something good for somebody else. that concludes my report. chairman nolan: comments or questions? >> there are some members of the public that wanted to speak about the use pass. >> i was

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. >> americans will always associate moammar gadhafi with the bombing of pan 157803 in lockerbie and scotland and familyrs of the victims were vocal. i am joined by a woman whose husband was killed that day. i have talked to you a few times last few months and always wondered whether you would feel any sense of closure if you heard gadhafi was dead. how do you feel today? >> well, first of all, i feel elated and vindicated as to what has unfolded today. i think this was a day that i could hardly even dream about. it is a day that victims of gadhafi terrorism as well as the libyan people can breathe a sigh of relief knowing that gadhafi cannot come back and continue his reign of brutality. >> there is a kind of change, awful irony that al megrahi, who was the man accused of committing that atrocity that killed your husband is still alive and nearly two years or so after he was released. how do you feel about that? >> i think everyone in the gadhafi regime that was involved with terrorist attacks against america should be held accountable and obviously, al megrahi was convicted of the crime but other memb

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