both coasts of the state of journalists and swan and jeffrey tucker of the american institute for economic research development thank you for being here ben obviously this declaration is extremely controversial but isn't a covert vaccine supposed to get us to herd immunity. yes it is yes to both of them it's controversial and a vaccine is supposed to give us the herd immunity but it's not the only way to herd immunity unless of course you only listen to big pharma big pharma will tell you that before vaccines i guess there was no such thing as herd immunity and yet now we know of course that that's not true what we know is this the way the human body responds to pandemics because there have been pandemics all throughout human history is to build herd immunity through exposure to a virus what this document is essentially saying is we know and what we do now know about covert that we didn't maybe know 6 months ago is that there is a certain segment of the population that is not very susceptible to coat it the younger you are obviously children teenagers people under 19 years old have you know virtually no suscep