>> oh, american psychiatric association. >> mm, yeah. >> the apa did another study on it, the americansychiatric association, that came out just recently, and they said it's 15 times more so. if you do the numbers, it's between 180,000 and 210,000 a year. >> that's horrifying. i mean -- >> there's more men raped in the -- in the military... than in federal prisons. that's according to dod's numbers and, you know, comparing them to do the justice department's figures. >> so, what do we do, geri lynn? how do we fix this? how do we -- i mean, i know that a lot of the legislators -- and you've met with them 'cause we have pictures of you. >> mm-hmm. >> seeing him talking to jackie speier -- congresswomen jackie speier -- here is -- is really instrumental in leading this fight, but you're in the trenches. you're -- you're living this. what do we do? >> [ sighing ] what do we do? well, um, we keep the conversation going... by sharing with people about the topic. a lot of people still don't realize that this occurs in the military. >> they don't want to believe it. >> they don't want to belie