working in some capacity and a work permit is not going to upgrade their status to sudden ly take americn jobs and if it did, competition is what it is, and come e pe pe stigs a good thing. i really believe that president obama does this. the second-termt president for the last 80 years have accomplished very little, and this president realizes that pretty much his presidency is over. i think that is why he is working on the handicap more than the leading the country, and he is doing something like this to create a legacy issue that he does, and that is the main reason behind it. >> and gary b, what do you think? is this taking jobs from americans? >> well, i think it would, brenda. a lot of people are under the perception that there's a lot of jobs out there that the immigrants have that americans wouldn't want to do. i was unthe der that perception to be quite honest with you, until i looked up the facts, and there is no job out there, even if it is a maintenance worker or taxi cab driver or the janitors or the jobs s that you think i majority immigrant, but in every one of the jobs, th

if there were a strategy, it would actual ly tell the americn public the hard things they need to hear which is that you don't partner with coalitions with those who have like-minded values. you deal with countries lake they are, iran and assad, who are the only governments in the region fighting isis. and to have this policy that keeps them in the ground is enormously dedestructive. >> we're going to take a break. you talked more about that advising group and the part we have no strategy is code for we are having internal battles about it. so when we come back, we'll talk more about that but also quite specifically about the human toll and one mother's desperate plea. scratch craig? your choice. what are you doing with that key jake? i'm thinking of scratching your car. well, you should stop thinking that. you're a little too precious with it. don't touch my dart, jake common it's for your own good, you'll thank me later. move out of the way, so you don't get hurt, i mean it. it's gonna happen, might as well be from a friend. jake... step back, jake. (tiger roar) let that phrase sit w

that was to avert the extermination, the genocide of the iyazidis, to protect americn personnel in erbilrnment, we had a peshmerga, competentent military. we had assets on the ground to follow through to provide the safe border. in syria in the middle of civil war, if isis has any competition for outrageous behavior, it's bashar al assad, who has exterminated his own people so i'd be very reluctant, count me as a skeptic about the wisdom of us engaging in a serious way, where we are getting pulled into a civil war in syria and frankly, i don't think the american people want us to do that. they've seen the limitations of american military trying to solve iraqi and syrian political problems. this ultimately is a situation of constant conflict between sunni and shia in the middle east and they've got to work this out. >> count you as a skeptic. does that mean count you as a no vote if it does come to that if the white house does seek authorization for air strikes against isis in syria? >> well, i see what it is specifically the white house is requesting, because strikes that are about prote