>> ithink getti the bill is critical to america, to the american people, t the streng of the amerin economy. you know, i hop we don' go that way but i cldn't take i off the tabl for sure. >> rose: turning to another subject, youent with former president clinton to nth korea. what was it like? >> well, it was my first visit to pyongyang. we wenon a humanitarian mission to get t two american reporters out of north kor. we were successful in that. we were ry happy aut that. it was ahrilling moment to be able to bring lra ling a eunaee back to their families in america. we had an extensive mt with kim jong il and we had dinner with kim jong il. >> rose: what did you learn from th? >> we were tre as priva citizens. i would say a couple things. one is thate concted those meetings ia very straightforward manner. he was clearly... i thinkhe's shown the effects of havingad a stroke. i'm not a doctor, but fm what i could tell he's havingad a stroke. he's still in charge in command d he was saightforward in those discussions. and... but we were tre as private citins. we briefed the white house...-es a

would like to think that ven the history, theast, gin the strength-- actual and potential-- of t amerin economy, we can and still provide a kind of indispeable element adership here. but it's notoing to be dictatorial, ll tell you that and it's very hard to herd these ca together. >> ros well, you'r already benning to see some questions abouin the terms of leadership of these gbal financial institutions. >> well, you can see, you cannot beb depeent upon these countries for three or four illion of your debt. and think that they're going to be pass i observers. >> rose: the don't want to play a role >> and they don't want have decision making authority. they wanto be at thetable. they want to be at the table but coming to the table doesn't create consensus. look a the security council. (laughs) >> rose: wl, there's veto powethere. >> even without the veto power. >> rose: okay. but what should behe membership? should it... it's no longer going to be g-7, obviously. the g-20 was what happened in pittsburgh. ould it be the 29? because some people argue that it's only g-2 in tend. >> actuay, whatever

>>iven how bad the economy has been and the health care debate and energ is there a fling that they took too much really at this point? gwen: and is that theasic fear ong amerins that we' hearing now? >> ihink that is the basic fear that sort of the center of the electorat has. ople who were drawn to obama because of his positiv message for change, optimistic for a fferent kind of politics, i don't think they were prepared for the lume of activity from this administration. some othat had toome. you had to dea with the economy. their arguments if you're ever going to get the enomy right you have to x healtcare. you can make a strong argument happing swuns and that is a basic underlying, eve to people who are stl sympathetic to it, do you have to go thi fast? >> don'tover healtcare but having covered wars for this ny years, i have noteen the passion for the war that you see for health care. it's so incredibl personal. i think wh people says afghanisn possibly obama's vietm? i think not really. it's more about heth care. >> in arong way for the administtion. everybody personally fearful their lives are going to be srupted but when they see t benefi of reform the

amerin history was rampant. mewhile, greenbacks, union dollars, could still be traded in the nber four a spc, so they understood that u.s. dollar's continued to hold the value and the was a an underground economytha accepted greenback currency although it was illegal and so, well, for the union soldiers the principal way in which they could purchase things was throug confederate money. it still was the standard currency of the land. so i hope that answers your estion. thank you. yes sir please. >> did sherman ever actually send-- [inaudible] >> well, yes, sherman made himself quite at home in atlanta. he was outside of atlanta of the day of its surrender to the self of around the town of jonesboro, the railroad town of jones borrow ande eventually made his way into the city a few days later. before even got their recent the telegraph to president lincoln saying atlanta is ours and fairly one and those words were spread, this very simple words went out throughout the nth to newspapers throughout the north. he moved intoown, took up resdence in a mansion on city hall's where the corner of washington and mitchell streets, and within a few days issued an order expelling the entire civian populatn