ameshia, it's not just the press.ans will be blamed if there is a shutdown because a lot of people get hurt. a lot of people don't get paid. they eventually get paid, but for that period of time, they're not getting their regular paycheck. >> absolutely. and in an election year, this could be a death knell for the republican party. the lack of wherewithal that those five members have, those five republican members have or care, essentially, for the 2024 election and the down-ballot races is very large. they are so stuck in their own mindset of trying to be stalwarts that that they do not square care about the future of the republican party or that they will get blamed, shamed, and they should be. this is a level of chaos that is presentable. howard: by the way, donald trum- >> i think the washington "the washington post," by the way, said joe biden would get blamed for the shutdown in their poll last night. they have stunned, because this is a first time in a 10-point margin that the democrats have been blamed for a s