amisha cross, democratic strategist and former obama campaign adviser. marybelle hernandez rivera, director of policy and government affairs for border and immigration act, it's great to have all three of you with us. matthew, i'll start with you. from doing what trump does, doubling down on this anti- immigrant rhetoric. we all remember the outrage from 2015, in some ways, though, the fact that he keeps doing it has normalized it for his base, and the shock factor of what he does seems to have worn off on many americans who support this guy. >> i think it's past normalization to his base, it's actually, they like it, and the more inflammatory ways he talks, the more they seem to like it in the course of this. first of all, a couple of things on this. it's not surprising that there is a politician like donald trump doing this. this has happened throughout our american history, it happened with my irish ancestors, it happened with the chinese, it's happened throughout our history that certain politicians inflame the population, especially if they're in fe