you are doing a kick starter ampaign. people want them you will sell these action figures?right. we promised the nsa won't get your e-mail address. [laughter] >> are you a libertarian? >> like to call myself a classical liberal. john: i'm a libertarian, a libertarian show. when we return, a debate about the president's plan from the liberal and conservative wings. of classic liberalism. ♪ ♪ ♪ john: republican and democrats will squabble on other channels. what i care about is a pretty. and the dignity of the individuals. libertarians obsess about that thaddeus russell is the author of renegade history in the united states. gally murdoch leans more to the right. you both listen to the president's speech and you have differences about what he said regarding and you have differences about what he said regarding immigration and the nsa and obamacare. >> we have no disagreements, i hope, on that. it's a lot wrten by corporations. people on the left don't like corporations. libertarians don't like government telling us what to do. so it seems like a win-win. so there is no questi

if you listen to the news you will hear about a hopeless ampaign to win the unwinnable. hat is if you hear about it is all -- at all. the american people know two things. they know that the war is going badly, and they know that their neighbors oppose us being there. however, i am sure you have heard it that, just because i know it of it doesn't make it so. neither polls, nor the press paint the full picture. they never tell the full story. that story is a hopeful one. not blindly so, but hopeful nonetheless. traditionally it is right and proper that these stories come from the commander-in-chief. he has talked about afghanistan only a handful of times during his presidency. each time, president obama has raised his run for the exits, or pitied our wounded, instead of lauding the compliments of our troops, and the importance of the mission they were given to fight. so the president of the united states will not give the speech, so i will. in 2001 after the u.s. -- worst attack since pearl harbor about we invaded afghanistan. the very act of toppling the taliban regime wa

organization which processes -- possesses an infrastructure capable of planning and mounting terrorist ampaigns overseas. other f.b.i. reports describe the m.o.a. in similar ways with a 2003 file stating, quote, investigation of the muslims of americas is based on specific and articulate facts giving justification of belief they are engaged in international terrorism. m.o.a. members believe the holiest site in the country is located at the islamville commune in south carolina. other m.o.a. entities include the international koranic open university, united muslim-christian forum, islamic post, muslim veterans of america and american muslim medical relief team. on further down, the m.o.a. refers to its texas commune as mamoudburg, online instructions for a parade in new york in 2010. a posting on an islamic message board in 2005 advertised a speaking engagement in houston by someone from mahmoudburg. according to the reports, the commune is seven to 10 acres large, is in extremely wooded area and two or three trailer homes moved there in december of 2001. however, members visited the area as part