. >> amrita, they're de knying an involvement with the houthi rebels what's your take >> the reality is right now on both sides shipshave stalled and no companies are willing to take the risk of crossing the red sea, and i think that's where -- by the way, we do expect u.s. and uk attacks to continue, but we also don't think that's going to deter the houthis from stopping the attacks. going around adds 15 to 20 days. they're hoping for a resolution. >> tanother spoke at davos the red sea shouldn't be a problem but it could turn into a big problem long term. your reaction to those comments. >> yes, i absolutely agree this is one of the things in the short term people have some storage. they can always draw that down, but if you think about it. we've already locked up russian oil rather than going to europe. it's going all the way to asia now it's 30 days or even further, so you're tying up vessels for longer at the same time now what you're doing from the middle east, you oar going to to take 15 to 20 days much longer routes taken by vessels, which suddenly means there's a shortage of