tonight he makes that case publicly. >> amrullah saleh: you have to give pakistan a title. it a friend? what is pakistan? >> logan: it currently has the title of "ally." >> saleh: right-- deceptive. >> logan: so you think its title should be? >> saleh: it should be a hostile country, a hostile state. >> logan: so pakistan is the enemy of the u.s.? >> saleh: the amount of pain pakistan has inflicted upon the united states in the past 12 years is unprecedented. no other country has inflicted that amount of pain upon your nation. >> logan: when you say "pain," what do you mean specifically? >> saleh: i mean, they generate fear for your country. they take your money; they do not cooperate; they created the taliban; they are number one in nuclear proliferation. you name it-- every pain u.s. has in that part of the world, the hub of that is pakistan. >> logan: that may sound harsh considering what president obama told steve kroft on "60 minutes" last week. >> president barack obama: pakistan, since 9/11, has been a strong counterterrorism partner with us. >> logan: while he ackno