he likes amtrak train. >> amtrak trains are packed. >> john: actually here is what it looked like when amtrak trains fill just a third of their seats, but if we don't invest in trains what is the mass transit alternative? new buses. this is now the fastest growing mass transit in america. why? >> because it's cheaper. >> john: buses don't get the big subsidies but they are much cheaper than trains. >> i'll take that. >> amtrak is too expensive. i don't have $200. >> john: more typically an amtrak from new york to d.c. costs about 150 and bus ticket is 20. >> it's cheap. >> john: also today's buses are pleasant. they have wi-fi and most for a bus can go where the people go. trains run in straight lines, but people move every which way. only cars and buses can change routes. >> john: they are making money and doing a better job? >> and growing because they are more flexible. >> john: which raises the question why should taxpayers lose more money on trains. people cite new york subways. you would lose money, they transport lots of us. >> what would happen in new york if we waited for priv

he likes amtrak train. >> amtrak trains are packed. >> john: actually here is what it looked like whenhe amtrak trains fill just a third of their seats, but if we don't invest in trains what is the mass transit alternative new buses. this is now the fastest growing mass transit in ameca. why? >> because it's cheaper. >> john: buses don't get the big subsidies but they are much cheaper than trains. >> i'll take that. >> amtrak is too expensive. i don't have $200. >> john: more typically an amtrak from new york to d.c. costs about 150 and bus ticket is 20. >> it's cheap. >> john: also today's buses are pleasant. they have wi-fi and most for a bus can go where the people go. trains run in straight lines, but people move every which way. only cars and buses can change routes. >> john: they are making money and doing a better job? >> and growing because they are more flexible. >> john: which raises the question why should taxpayers lose more money on trains. people cite new york subways. you would lose money, they transport lots of us. >> what would happen in new york if we waited for priva

litten like's california's amtrak train. >> amtrak trains are packed. >> packed?n we taped. on average, amtrak's california trains fill just a third of their seats. but if we don't invest in trains what's the mass transit alternative? new buses. this is now the fastest growing mass transit in america. why? >> because it's cheaper. >> buses don't get the big subsidies. but they're still much cheaper than trains. >> $3.50 to get you to delaware? >> yeah. >> i'll take that. >> amtrak is too expensive. i don't have $200. >> more typically, an amtrak ticket from new york to d.c. costs about $150 and a bus ticket just $20. >> it's cheap. that's basically it. >> also, today's buses are pleasant. they have extras like wi-fi. and most important, a bus can go where the people go. trains run in straight lines, but people move every which way. only cars and buses can change routes to follow them. >> they're making money and doing a better job? >> yes. and growing because they're more flexible. >> which raises the question, why should taxpayers lose more money on trains? peopl

i don't have $200. >> john: more typically an amtrak from new york to d.c.20. >> it's cap. >> john: also today's buses are pleasan they have wi-fi and most for a bus can go where the people go. trains run in straight lines, bu people move every which way. only cs and buses can change routes. >> john: they are making money and doing a better job? >> and growing because they are more flexible. >> john: which raises the question why should taxpayers lose more money on trains. people cite new yor subways. you would lose money, they transport lots of us. >> what would happen in new york if we waited for pri investors to build the subway, it would have neverappened. >> john: makes sense, if you ask people who built the subways. >> i think it was the government. >> i think it was president eisenhower. >> union workers. >> john: actually.... >> 1878 before the brooklyn bridge. >> the original subways in new york were all private. >> carried tens of millions of passengers. >> john: after 50 years they tried to raise the fares to a dime. >> they didn't like that mayor

. >> i am going to have to take the amtrak and to the ferry building from amtrak. they don't go straight to san francisco. you have to take the bus to the ferry building in san francisco and then i will have to take a bus to muni and take another bus. >> reporter: negotiations did wrap up around this time yesterday in oakland. we are here right now waiting to see what both sides have to say today when they wrap up and whether they will report any progress. live in oakland, cara liu, ktvu channel 2 news. >> other agencies are getting ready for a possible bart strike. a.c. transit said they will add extra service where possible depending on whether buses and drivers are available. the san francisco bay ferry will run 13 boats up from the usual 8. and the 511.org has information on carpooling. and stay with ktvu channel 2 news for updates on the potential for a second bart strike. sign up for alert on www.ktvu.com so you will know if the union goes on strike. you can also read more about transportation options in the event of a strike and we have a section dedicated t

she probably got this laced with some amtraks. >> amtrak? >> what the what? >> what is it?> they done sent me a picture ticket. they're trying to say i ran through a red light, nephew. how are they gonna even tell if that's me? how they know if that's me? >> uncle brown, you have on the same outfit you got on right now. [cora laughs] >> that ain't nothing. that--somebody can be out there improstituting me. you know how many people dress like this? >> nobody! >> haters. oh, y'all are just haters. >> mr. brown, i'd just ignore that ticket. >> that's 'cause you used to being on the wrong side of the law. >> mr. brown, all you have to do is just go to traffic school, and they'll wipe that ticket right out. >> traffic school, miss cora? no, you're doing too much. >> what you mean? >> no, i got a cop friend. he'll wipe that ticket out. all you need is a blond wig, a bustier, and a can-do attitude. >> oh, god. >> settle down, settle down. welcome to defensive driving class. you all have one thing in common. y'all's driving sucks! mr. brown. >> you can see me? >> thank you for join

it was at an amtrak train station and i was buying a ticket. the lady looked directly at me and said you qualify for the senior discount, don't you? so i looked around to see who she was addressing these remarks to and i was the only person there. then a doctor said to me your knees aren't too bad for a man of your age. another one said we don't screen for that in a man of your age. and so it went day after day, doctor after doctor, situation after situation the dread words for a man of your age. but i want to tell you the final ultimate insult was a dentist who said well you know you could have implants that in a man of your age is it worth it? the answer is yes, for a man of my age i have a lot to offer and i have had it with that awful phrase and with senior everything. from got a letter somebody who said she's 94 years old and she said she refuses to take the discount in the cinema lest she think that she is old. there you have it. man of your age, what a horrible phrase. i will be back with the most extraordinary interesting person who we

will it happen all at once well it's already being phased in and we see different train stations and amtrak stations across the country it's already led to some controversy as i mentioned before with some people being randomly searched by these agents of that leading to things like drug charges and other things that don't have anything to do with a national security threat so it's being phased in i think the program started in two thousand and five after the madrid attacks on spain's rail system now what can we expect in terms of the scope to the t.s.a. security increase should be anticipated t.s.a. pat downs and metal detectors at the next sporting event that we have and. i definitely hope and. i think we're already seeing again as we're seeing random searches we're seeing these really kind of intrusive squads being placed at different events. and i don't think that there's any specific plans for those types of activities but again as. this activity increases the consequences are hard to predict in the long term now according to the government accountability office t.s.a. misconduct increa

. >> that must have been the publicist for amtrak. i don't know what e-mail is. we share the same name, travel by train. i agree with what andy said. these guys don't come off as not doing something that was constitutional, search and seizure. they did the opposite. what do they get? they get a strong rebuke. well that's all we need is a strong rebuke. >> what should we do? you want oversight. >> but there isn't oversight. >> isn't that what this is? >> the fact is the courts have no investigative powers. the only reason we know about this is because the nsa told the court that the one body that does any kind of oversight can't investigate. so there is no actual oversight. >> so basically what happens is when somebody goes in and looks at the produce in the supermarket you would rather not know? >> no because here is the deal, greg. people like you, you defenders of sh facism you say there are no incidents where the nsa -- >> well i said we need to regulate it. >> well this is all coming up, but we don't know of instances where the nsa actually did something wron

you're talking about a third from the amtrak and i wonder if the mindset here when you talk about what these numbers actually add up to seems like the mindset is we just don't want government outside of some very basic things. >> look, there is a skepticism. first off, there are people that believe we need to radically shrink the footprint of federal power. and those people are a rising element in the republican party. but there's also a lot of skepticism that all this spending, all these wonderful sounding things, these water grants and everything else are not delivering the things that they claim to deliver. they're not the magical solution that creates thousands of jobs every time you switch on a program somewhere. there's a lot of skepticism about that and that is largely the fault of the obama administration and they promised by now, if we passed that stimulus bill, we would have 5% unemployment. real unemployment is 14%. we know that these things are increasingly met with the public's skepticism, not with, oh, joy. when you say a job's bill, it sounds great, but now people are li

>> i go on amtrak and you get on the quiet car and people are still doing the conference calls.m going, we need to get on that. >> do you confront them? >> might be a screening car. i don't know. >> are you one of those who confront those who talk on the quiet car? >> that sounds like a backspin. the question i want to ask you is, how important is it to have this idea coming from a proven venture capitalist and creator, right? if this were just floating around, i don't think it would get traction. >> that's a very good point. with the et 3 proposal, the 4,000-mile-per-hour train, a lot of this stuff is out there and circulate package.musk really does have an established track record. he said he wanted to start a rocket ship company and people were like really. now a couple years later, he has nasa contracts and he said he wanted to make a silicon valley new car company. we now have very good cars that are coming out of the tesla factory. so musk has -- he's not a crackpot. he's a real guy with a scientific background and an established business record. >> glenn, it's great to ha

he was governor of amtrak. he was secretary of the department of health and human services from 2001 to 2000 five, appointed by president george w. bush. most recently, the governor has joined the bipartisan policy center here as a senior advisor, and we welcome him very much to our organization. governor, the budget for hhs when you took over in 2001 was about $380 billion, according to my record. along with social security administration then, that was the largest, and is the largest today, of the domestic agencies. when you left at the end of 2004, it had grown $200 billion, two over a $580 billion agency. you were hit with a slew of emergencies. amtrak, avian flu, and the need to stockpile smallpox vaccines. you also cleared a backlog of waivers and state plans to help expand health insurance coverage to low income americans. when i look at your budget -- i know we were supposed to talk about constrained budgets. but one might conclude -- you had no budget constraints on your agency. i kind of doubt that. b

you know, planned parenthood and amtrak being the best known of them. privatizing medicare as they proposed during the campaign. so if this bill would have passed say in the spring the economy is going up nobody would be safe now. the press and reasonable people saying we got rid of the jimmy-carter and we have a business-friendly president. slashed taxes for the wealthy, slashed social program. the economy is going up. cause and effect. these are coming back. just like reagan bringing things back. progressive idea would be discredit for a generation. with the frustrations progressives have right now. i think they should look at the glass half full and say that the country dodged a bullet last year. and the ryan plan went from something being a serious possibility to being a grant sincerity. repealing obamacare which they did 31 time. they could repeal it another 21 times and it wouldn't make a bit of difference. the president has been -- the demographic of the country don't move in a progressive direction. the issues -- there are these problems that th

of --o decided to get rid we were supposed to have amtrak service from here to minneapolis and then tohicago, no walkie in chicago, and he completely got rid of that -- no walkie and chicago and he completely got rid of that. you comment on these things because it gets me upset. host: let's hear from our guest. guest: thank you for the question. your governor has company. states have decided not to implement obamacare at the state exchange level. that is not happening in many places. any of the high population states are trying to implement it, but a great number of states are choosing not to implement it at this time. many believe that over the long term because the federal component is so generous, 100% at the beginning, and 90% at the end, many states will find it is too good of a deal to pass up, but certainly, in the short term, any governors and state legislatures are choosing the same path your governor has chosen. with respect to amtrak funding, again, there has been federal money made available to states rail, and some states are saying we do not have the volume of traffic tha

about 35 miles by amtrak. can't miss it. wish him a happy birthday. he is 100 years old today.py birthday to you all in tv land. we love you. now back to the big apple in new york. >> willard, thank you very much. >> coming up next, that wardrobe staple, the art of wearing a white shirt from business to casual to business casual. but first this is "today" on nbc. >>> we are back at 8:38 with our on going series the art of. this morning, the art of wearing the classic white shirt, whether you're sporting trousers or a skirt. she is a today news contributor and e news fashion correspondence and senior fashion editor for marie clare magazine. how do you have time for this segment? we love the white shirt. do you think every wardrobe should have this? >> absolutely. you can wear the white shirt for every occasion. you could wear it for the office, the weekend, you can wear it for the red carpet, you could wear it to bed. you can wear it absolutely everywhere. >> to natalie's question, you can wear it year round. >> absolutely. >> the first look is what we're calling the on duty loo

less than president ford allocated when he first started. 30% cut for amtrak, 30% cuts for transportation. ridiculous. a number of republicans could not vote for it because no suburban republican can go home and say i voted to raise the fares on long island railroad or new jersey transit, which is what this would do. some republicans voted against it because it wasn't bad enough. they couldn't get a vote. they had to pull the bill off the floor. the senate bill -- the senate counterpart bill was far more generous, was a reasonable bill in my opinion, a democratic bill with senator collins of maine, and they filibustered and killed that because it was too generous. i don't know how republicans can agree with themselves, never mind the democrats, on the bills to fund the government past september 30th. >> that's right. it is a bigger issue here than just whether the implementation of the affordable care passes, basic spending bills to fund the government, that's also a question mark. i want to stay on that point about the affordable care act. president obama had a press conference yesterday

he was chairman of amtrak when senator nickles and i try to limit subsidies. and, of course, he was secretary of department of health and human services from 2001-2005. he was appointed by president george w. bush. most recently, just for the record also, the governor has joined the bipartisan policy center as a senior advisor, and welcome them very much your to our organization. governor, the budget for hhs when you took over in 2001 was about $380 billion, by my record here, and along with social security, the administration then, that was the largest and is the largest still today of the domestic agencies. when you left at the end of 2004, it had grown 200 alien dollars to over $580 billion agency. during your tenure, you were hit with a slew of emergencies. anthrax post and -- anthrax, post-911, avian flu, and the need to stockpile smallpox vaccine. but you also cleared a backlog of waivers and state plans to help expand health insurance coverage to low-income americans. so when i look at you budget, and i know we're supposed to talk about constrained budg

but as former governor thompson might say, he was once president of amtrak, this is no way to run a railroad. and it has long-term impact on lots of issues that we care about as a society. and i think that's what this panel and the private one have really revealed. well, i want to thank everybody for coming. i want to thank jonathan breul for doing an excellent job moderating, also allison grant here, carrie drummond and david brownstein at george mason, i want to thank you for helping us put on this event, and thank you all very much. [applause] >> acting irs commissioner daniel wore fell testifies before the house ways and means committee this morning about the implementation of the new health care law. he'll be joined by the deputy administrator from the centers for medicare and medicaid. watch live coverage starting at 10 a.m. eastern on c-span3. >>> in a few moments, the senate comes in and will work on judicial nominations. be funeral for former ambassador and congresswoman lendyboggs will be held this morning in new orleans. she was the wife of the late house minority leader and mothe

. >> guest: it's all amtrak's fault. it was the metro liner.im and i were going to new york to edit a piece we shot for 20/20 for juvenile crime. the more we talked and the more we thought about it. somewhere between delaware and new york city, we decided we had to write a book. trouble is we were both world class procrastinators. we had at love other things on our mind. it took us a long time to get there. >> guest: as martin said we are world class procrastinators. i insist we are not quitters. sometimes the distinction is hard to make. we put it off for a long time. we are semi retired. i find maybe i'm doing more work than when i was at abc news only i'm not getting paid as well. it's worth or energy. besides, i don't want to run in to you in the rest home we should have done it or it was your fault. or you say it to me. we thought it was a worthwhile project. most importantly it's an important issue and we had something to say. we had stories to tell and legal principles to explain. we worked, i think, very well on that. martin is a story

maybe this kid gets amtrak to be profitable or something for all of us in the future. >> steve: finalnd after lots of counseling, we decided to divorce. now it's been over a year and i keep thinking, i made a mistake. am i nuts to want to get back together with that guy she used to argue with? >> no, you're not nuts because 99.9% of the people in your situation, very unhappy and together, you're called married people. so if you've discovered that you're better off miserable together, then you would join the rest of the bulk of america and perhaps remarry, which would be okay! >> clayton: i'm sure your e-mail in box will be flooded with questions like this. he answers these questions for us every week. great to see you. >> all right. take care. marry your wife again today. >> steve: there you go. wise words. >> gretchen: i promised. they didn't have the butterfinger one. so you'll have to settle for oreo. is that all right? >> clayton: thank you. usher's son outside at the pool nearly drowned after being stuck in a drain. so parents, what you can do to stop this, a life saving lesson,

. >> and i enjoyed taking my family on the coastal starlight on amtrak from los angeles to seattle about it again because your massacre level -- i mean since 1996, since we took positive action under john howard's legislation, zero gun massacres in australia. since 1996, every year in the usa, more gun massacres. try the harvard study which points out that children in the usa are 11 times more likely to be shot dead through and from guns than any other oecd country in the world. you have to face up to this. >> and so mr. fischer, i appreciate the statistics. do you think that australians will heed your warning or are you taking this as an opportunity to voice your opinion and make a political statement? >> no, i'm not in politics. i'm not now a congressman. i've stepped down as a regional republican equivalent. i'm a vietnam veteran. i support sensible use of guns but i do simply make this statement that people should evaluate risks when they travel, whether it's to bhutan or whether it's to baltimore, and i just am reminded of this by this senseless killing on a peaceful street in d

42nd governor in wisconsin, the longest serving governor in that state's history, he was chairman of amtrak when the senator tried to eliminate subsidies and of course he was the secretary of the department of health and human services from 2001 to 2005. he was appointed by president george w. bush. most recently for the record the governor joined the bipartisan policy center here as a senior adviser and we welcome him very much to the organization. governor, the budget when you took over in 2001 was about $380 billion is my record here. along with social security the was the largest and is the largest still today of the domestic agency. when you left at the end of 2004 it had grown $200 billion to over 580 billion-dollar agency. during your tenure you were hit with a slew of emergencies, anthrax, post 911, concerns over bioterrorism, the flu and the need to stockpile the smallpox vaccine. you also cleared up the plans to expand health insurance coveragn so when i look at your budget i know we are supposed to talk about constrained budgets but one might conclude you had no budget constraint

a power outage is affecting an amtrak signaling system along the northeast corridor.0th anniversary of the march on washington the architect says a contract in brunei has stalled the rest of the project. the anniversary of the march is august 28 and the scaffolding will come down and then the work will resume a little bit later on. >> 66 eastbound is the worst delay we have right now. state to the left. and -- thetoll road, dulles toll road, state to the right to get around that one. ,nd in montgomery county, slow as well as through prince george's. >> if you're trying to fly out of reagan national dulles airport about delays ranging between 1525 minutes because of the low clouds that we have. some pretty good show hours south of d.c. right now and some rain in montgomery county. 79 degrees right now. we should make it into the upper 80's. a flash flood watch across the metro as well. >> t announcer: it's "live! with kelly & michael." today, from the drama "true blood," joe manganiello. and from the new film, "austenland," kerri walsh. and a chat with recording artist

but i first advanced it in 1993, but amtrak wasn't interested and so it never went off the ground. >>e will. professor frankel, thank you for calling in this morning. sorry we don't have more time to discuss it but i'm sure it's not the last this issue wab on air. we'll get to scott wapner with some breaking news. >> you can add another voice now to the discussion on bill ackman leaving the board of jcpenney. i just got off the phone with allen questrom, he's the former ceo of jcpenney who was linked with ackman in that first letter that mr. ackman had sent to the board. mr. questrom telling me ackman did what was right for the board, what was best for the board. ron tysoe is this new board member in has been named. formerly the vice chairman of fed rated. mr. questrom saying ron tysoe will be good for the board, that the company needs to get the business back on track, also thinks the company will have to get more equity into the business sooner rather than later. also saying if the board is happy with mike ullman, they should get behind him telling me, and this is significant as wel

bill together, that would gut the home program, amtrak and the effort to modernize our nation's air traffic control system. it became clear this week, however, that the majority did not have the votes to pass it. we could be working today to end the damaging cuts imposed by the ryan budget which the republican chairman of the appropriations committee called unrealistic and ill conceived. that's the republican chairman of the appropriations committee. instead, -- instead of working on any of these issues, we're wasting the last days remaining before a five-week recess on a measure that threatens to impede our nation's law enforcement efforts and continues senseless attacks on our nation's civil servants. h.r. 2879, the bill before us now, was thrown together last night from the ruins of three bills the majority did not have the votes to pass yesterday. the rules committee had to call an emergency meeting last night to push this bill through and no amendments are being allowed. so what would this legislation do? first and foremost, it would undermine our nation's law enforcement activities. i

he was chairman of amtrak when senator nickles and i try to eliminate subsidies. no. and, of course, he was secretary of department of health and human services from 2001-2005. he was appointed by president george w. bush. most recently, just for the record also, the governor has joined the bipartisan policy center as a senior advisor, and we welcome him very much year to our organization. governor, the budget for hhs when you took over in 2001 was about $380 billion, by my record here, and along with social security, the administration then, that was the largest and is the largest still today of the domestic agencies. when you left at the end of 2004, it had grown $200 billion to over $580 billion agencies -- $580 billion agency. during her tenure, you hit with a slew of emergencies. anthrax, post-911, concerns over bioterrorism, avian flu, and the need to stockpile smallpox vaccines. but you also cleared a backlog of waivers and state plans to help expand health insurance coverage to low-income americans. so when i look at your budget, i know we're supposed to talk

with 9/11, we tend not to focus on the amtrak attacks -- the anthrax attacks which was less than twoounces of anthrax in letters and showed him the capital, changed the way we get our mail, killed five, infected 17, put 100,000 people on cipro in this country, two ounces. terrorist groups today, like hezbollah, are very interested in weapons of mass destruction. we forget that and we're not just talking about the austin bombing, as terrible as that was peered we're talking about groups who may the incapacitated for the moment, but if we take they willf the ball, continue to search for the most effective way to kill the largest number of us. thehen john talks about threat, yes, the threat exists. it is less now because of all the measures we have taken and all of the money we have spent. but if we stop doing that -- my problem is, i think we can do it in a way that preserves civil liberties which we are now in danger of sacrificing in the name of that. we do not have to peered we just have to do the other stuff that we know how to do better. the single greatest direct threat to the un