amy clark manages the office. >> it's very frustrating. because potentially there is so much more we could do, but we need the funding to enable us to do that. it does get very frustrating. and quite stressful, as well, at times, when you sort of are running around sort of almost feels like you're begging sometimes, but unfortunately that's what we need to do to be able to get the funds to continue. >> reporter: the mambas' salary is covered by the south african national parks authority, but it's not much, about $250 a month. the extreme low end of south africa's national pay scale. yet similar to what other park workers get. but they say they're driven to do this because they say they want to preserve something for their children. >> we want our children to be able to see rhinos, not from a television or a magazine. we want them to see them live in the reserve. >> it is important for us to save the rhinos so that the next generation will be able to see that they are rhinos. not just by history that there was rhinos. otherwise they will be

. >> amy clark went to an administrate tore report that she had been raped near campus. >> and he hooked's like rape is like the fall. if you were the quarterback looking back on monday morning, you know, what would you have done differently and nba that situation, annie? ♪ ♪ >> joining us now is annie clark, she was sexually assaulted as a students at the university of north carolina, she's the cofounder i've group ending rape on campus. as many times as i hear that, i cannot believe it. that they gave you a football metaphor. >> yes, that's what happened. and that's actually not uncommon. not that specific metaphor, that victims are blamed when they go forward. i actually don't think this person said something out of mall i.i think it was just because she was uneducated and didn't understand that she was blaming the victim. >> you travel around the country as part of your work. are things better or the same was when you were in college? >> i think they are starting to. i think the very fact that we are able to have this conversation is a step in the right directs, i do agree with both

amy: and the arch? >> it was a symbol for american progress, american kind during spirit. saint loses on the border of the mecca and frontier at the time of the lewis and clarkditions and support in the arch is a celebration of that and to celebrate st. louis in american history. i recognize there's another side of the story, that one were you can read that the celebration of manifest destiny as a celebration of imperial and colonial empowerment. i wanted to bring that narrative to my project. amy: finally, sharifa rhodes-pitts, what being here in venice with all that is taking place in the united states that you're both deeply involved with, mean? >> well, one thing that comes to .ind to me, the connections at the moment that we're dealing with black lives matter and the violence against black people and brown people in the united sings, europe is a sparing incredible dust expensing thousands of black people here, too, and after venice will be going down to the center of the migration where people in the east and africa come through in order to arrive at europe. this perilous state of -- of people worldwide that a been subjugated to white for missy and capi