he had left by the time amy coney barrett was nominated in 2020 but don mcgahn had a very strong and it selecting her for the seventh circuit when she was nominated back in 2017. even sat behind judge barrett as she was there for her confirmation to the seventh circuit. >> justice ruth bader ginsburg, you have some chapters on her final days but there was some collaborative attire during the obama administration but how much do you say if she had done that, it would be a 5-4 court and the other direction? >> i got a tip in 2013, 2014 that president obama had invited her to lunch in the summer of 2013. she had hardly finished her soup. she gave a lot of details about it. but i said you think he was fishing to find out your retirement plans? i found out later he was. she said no, i think he invited me because he likes me and i like him. she was aware of the pressure but she was 80 years old in 2013 when this occurred. she had cancer beginning in 1999. 2009. by the time we got to 2013, she had i gotten the lung cancer. that appears in 2018. she had serious cancer. including pancreatic ca

the third appointing, amy coney barrett. bader ginsburg dies, she is buried at the very end of the month. and at the very end of september is when donald trump announces the nomination of amy coney barrett. her hearings happen almost immediately. she's confirmed at the end of october. and we are right at the election. contrast it to what happened in 2016, when mitch mcconnell set upon antonin scalia's death there is not a time to have a new justice confirmed until the november election. all those months versus just those few weeks and days shows how donald trump working with his team made such a difference. >> you wrote that his effect on the justices relationships with each other was even at times pernicious as he sowed distress. >> as they were all maneuvering differently inside, to rt of counteract his effort to undermine the integrity of the judiciary. think of the disdain donald trump showed toward the judiciary, even as a candidate. mocking a judge who ruled against him as a mexican judge. he had the one unprecedented

conservatives to our federal courts at every level included justice neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrett. that conservative majority gave america a new beginning and -- in the right to life in the last six months. [applause] to me, it was a privilege to be a part of it and i also appreciate the fact when something else i have tried to capture in "so help me god" was the hailstorm of opposition we faced from day one. i tell a story in the book about how i was with president trump on inauguration day in 2017 and we were at the oval office, just the two of us were there and we started walking back to the white house down the portico. and the bright lights were on the side wall, it was well lit. president trump looked at me and said, look at this. i said, it is humbling. he turned and looked at me and said, that's right it's humbling. [laughter] but as we walked into the residence, the end of that chapter i capture the fact that outside the oval office was a stack of newspapers. the headline in the washington post on january 20, 2017 was " the campaign to impeach donald trump starts today. "

amy coney barrett gets on the court and all of a sudden it exists again as it pertains to practicing. >> ian: if you look at this, this is the postal service. for decades, for years, monday through saturday, right, that's when you worked. that's when you delivered. the core function, delivering usps mail. now they get a contract with amazon on sunday. it's a small part of their business model to deliver packages on sunday. again, you mean to tell me you can't get somebody else to do it on sunday? that's part of the bargain. when you sign up to work at the postal service years ago, you knew you didn't have to work on sunday. but as far as the court, i mean, there's a lot of interesting cases that could get there. a recent case out of the seventh circuit unfortunately where a professor was -- they ruled against him because he wouldn't use the preferred pronouns of a student. now, in the sixth circuit, you have the opposite decision. so you've got a split in the circuit. hopefully, that's something that the supreme court takes up in the future and starts restoring some of these first am

amy coney barrett very clearly is an ideologue. you now have ideologues on the court who got through. how do we change the way that voters pay attention to senate races to connect them to the fact that that is how you wind up with a court that can take away your rights >> we really have to be doing a massive public education campaign to the american people. just a few days ago, we announced in "the new york times" that naral along with dozens of other organization have joined the campaign to focus on taking the narrative about this court, the extremist court, the ethics issues, and really examining every possible option to reform the court, including structural change, and by that i mean court expansion we have to take it to the american people and have to have really robust conversations. we know that the american people don't trust this court we know that the challenges with this court are undergirding all of the challenges for us as a democracy. we don't have majority rule right now. we know the majority of american people are w

he called out three of the four women who were on the court by name including amy coney barrett from his own party and accusing them of hypocrisy because of the shadow docket. alito likes to use the shadow docket which is an emergency appeals process to uphold republican decisions from lower courts, even those that will likely over get -- and overturned eventually. in this case, the use the shadow docket to take down a conservative opinion from a lower court and suddenly, he is mad about that. he said you cannot use the shadow document that way but this way. it was actually funny watching alito convolute himself to make this argument. the upshot he is trying to get of here is that he doesn't mean if he takes a position on the case, even in the sentence you read, he is taking a position on the case and taking a position that the difference being approved for seven weeks after conception versus 10 weeks causes no real harm. it's the kind of analysis you make when you are a man and you think babies are brought by the stork. the difference between seven weeks and 10 weeks is significant

so that means people like amy coney barrett went along. obviously we know her personal view is anti abortion went along and said that this drug should be allowed to be sold as this works its way through. what do you make of that? it is a signal, um, and it's a signal in part because they might have certain views on abortion. but the cases in this particular posture where there's this issue of standing can plaintiffs bring claims do they have to prove that they themselves would be harmed by the drug being on the market? it's a radical position that's been taken by the courts below. so what they really want to flip back a bunch of other supreme court precedents to try to take that claim. they've sent a signal the fact that they only had two justices in dissent. alito and thomas, which were expected is a signal to the fifth circuit. the fifth circuit is a very conservative court, but now they might be thinking, okay if we go in a certain direction of overturning the fda we're going to be overturned by the supreme court. and courts don't like

conservatives to our federal courts at every level included justice neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrett. that conservative majority gave america a new beginning and -- in the right to life in the last six months. [applause] to me, it was a privilege to be a part of it and i also appreciate the fact when something else i have tried to capture in "so help me god" was the hailstorm of opposition we faced from day one. i tell a story in the book about how i was with president trump on inauguration day in 2017 and we were at the oval office, just the two of us were there and we started walking back to the white house down the portico. and the bright lights were on the side wall, it was well lit. president trump looked at me and said, look at this. i said, it is humbling. he turned and looked at me and said, that's right it's humbling. [laughter] but as we walked into the residence, the end of that chapter i capture the fact that outside the oval office was a stack of newspapers. the headline in the washington post on january 20, 2017 was " the campaign to impeach donald trump starts today. "

>> it is astonishing mitch mcconnell would make that statement when he rammed amy coney barrett throughate as a supreme court justice with months left in the trump administration. trump had already lost his reelection bid. so he has no standing on which to make that criticism. i think, this is all inside baseball, this is political gamesmanship. it is not unusual in congress for this to go on. he has no problem being hypocritical. because of his past conduct. now that he is all the sudden holier than thou. it is in fact unusual for to be a substitution. there may at some point be a situation where there is someone who is going to replace her on the committee. that happens from time to time. let's remember that mark, the senator from illinois was out for one year after he had a stroke. there was no mention of him having to resign. also senator tim johnson from south dakota was out 8 months. even mitch mcconnell was ever 40 days. i think senator feinstein should be given the opportunity to make the decision in conjunction with her physicians. she continues to work from home. cosponsoring

justices who are now can heard often the ones holding deciding votes like brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrette are concerns with the court as an institution and the perceived legitimacy of the court. but i think there are some signs a lot of the justices on this court are not concerned with the court's legitimacy, don't see themselves as stewards of the institution. i certain think that is true of thomas, sorta presented himself in very populist terms as sort of an outsider who opposed institutions, not some like chief justice john roberts who for all the very conservative -- although his conservative does seem concerned about perceptions of the court. some members of the conservative majority don't seem to share those concerns. it would surprise me if someone like neil gorsuch who joined the opinion staying the fifth circuit's ruling, if he was concerned about what is going on with fans thomas i think it may be more within the conservative legal community, there are a lot of sort of arguments of people like leonard leo have cultivated and those include those about staining. and these plainti

attacks to confirm our three great supreme court justice, neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh, and amy coney barrettions like yours as justices delivered a landmark victory for protecting innocent life, nobody thought it was going to happen. they thought it would be another 50 years because republicans had been trying to do it for exactly that period of time, 50 years. from my first day in office, i took historic action to protect the unborn. >> trump made those comments in a recorded speech this weekend at the annual spring fund-raiser for the iowa faith and freedom coalition, a powerful group of evangelicals in the state and certainly about playing to your audience here, because the sudden shift to trump's campaign on discussing abortion comes after he received a strong abuick from a major antiabortion group, the susan b. anthony antiabortion group after he said it should be left up to the state. speaking to reporters at that same event in iowa, former vice president mike pence drew a direct contrast with trump here's what he said when asked whether he would support an abortion ban at the federal

attacks to confirm our three great supreme brett court justices, neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh, amy coney barrett>> i do think it is more likely that this issue is resolved at the state level, but i don't agree with the former president who says this is a states-only issue. >> and joining me now is the republican governor of new hampshire. it's chris sununu who himself is considering a run. welcome back to "meet the considering a run. welcome back to "meet the press. >> thanks. thanks for having me on. >> the last time you were on and on many a program, you have made one declaration almost universal about 2024 let me play a montage. >> look, donald trump is not going to be the nominee, right we're just moving on as a party and as a country he's not going to be the nominee. that's just not going to happen. here's the good news, ready? i love you, i'm a big fan, but you're dead wrong. he's not going to be the nominee. >> all of those quotes are from february and march, none of them from april you've seen the numbers. you've seen this shift and the energy, and we've watche governor desantis. what do

whisper, h helped push through th nominations of justices neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh, an amy coney barrettk, the right-win activists found himsel embroiled in a controversy o his own. after the guardian reported on a new complaint, alleging le raked in more than $73 million from nonprofit groups that might be diverting money int his businesses illegally now, a campaign fo accountability which is nonprofit watchdog organizatio is actually now calling fo investigation into those group linked to leonard leo. these two men, clarence thomas and leonard leo, represent o the modern conservative elite. they are wealthy, influential, either because of thei positions of power or thei proximity to those in power. and believing the rules someho don't apply to them in the sam way they would apply to me and you. conservative elites i want you to be held accountable, wh believe the rule of law should matter for you, but not fo them just look at the standar bearer of this moment. donald trump, even before he entered the political elite, trump spent almost five decade wielding his influence, hi wealth, and

we assume it was a 7-2 decision with justices amy coney barrett, neil gorsuch, and john roberts joining justice. geoff: tell us about the alito decision, it was vigorous. john: it was, he says they did not prove there would be any irreparable harm during this period. his concluding line was this stay refuses to take a step that has not been shown as necessary to avoid the threat of any real harm during the presumably short period. i think abortion rights advocates would point out this ignores the fact that one of the things the fifth circuit court of appeals did was change the effectiveness of mifepristone from 10 weeks to seven weeks, a point at which some people might not be aware they are pregnant, and which pregnant people cannot freeze their pregnancy in the same way this is taking it off the market. geoff: what does this stay mean for access to mifepristone in the short-term? john: in the short-term, everything stays the same. after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, 12 states have made total bans on abortion and seven more are trying to ban it but in blocked by the courts.

now justice amy coney barrett suggests morale of religious americans could be important factor in thisst liberty institute president kelly shackelford. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> jerry, let's start your story. it all got started when amazon cut a deal with the post office we're going to deliver stuff on sunday. your boss said to you, gerald, you are going to have to work sundays. what did you tell them and then what happened? >> 2015, i -- they told me for the first time that i would have to start delivering on sundays and i told them i just wouldn't be able to do that. for the first year they accommodated me by saying that i could work extra shifts covering on holidays or covering on short-handed routes by doing a whole route and then coming back and taking a second route if possible. then the second year my postmaster told me they weren't going to put up that this year again i better plan on working on sundays or finding another job. so i actually looked at another local post office in humane society wood that was not required to work on sundays i transferred ov

brett kavanaugh, neil gorsuch or amy coney barrett was before he took over.i mean, leo told them this is a list they, you know, mike pence would have nominated probably the same or few of the same let off the same list. so the whole like promises made promises, kept thing on judges always somewhat amused my but sorry. just to add a note of cynicism here. sure, but that doesn't stop them from talking about it. yes. at their level in their way. yeah. oh, oh. hatch, there's a woman in red here on the end. i saw your hand go up. it's all you you. how do you plan on how do you plan on reaching younger audience about the dangers a figure like donald trump in politics, leibovich is doing a tick. yeah. look for it. yeah, that is a challenge. i mean, we see the demographics of who watches news and who reads the news and it is not the young people way they should. you. i think there will need to be creative ways in order to do that. i there is some encouragement about young turnout young young voters up a little in recent cycles more engagement that is good and there c

math, it appears that you have the three conservative justices neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh on amy coney barrett, who, by the way voted to overturn roe v. wade. last summer, they joined the liberal justices and chief justice john roberts to block the low records rulings against mifepristone and at the fda. does that signal to you at all? if and when the this case gets back to the supreme court that they will again side with the fda. yeah that's a tough call. aymara i think this particular stay, i think can be read as them not wanting the disruption that would have ensued as it was. it was just talking about across the country. the merits really go to the issue of whether the courts can second guess the agency expertise and this court the conservatives. have been very not deferential towards agency expertise. that's one of the big issues for the conservative agenda is kind of whittling away at difference the agencies, so when they do, take it up, it's not certain they will, but pretty sure after the fifth circuit gets through with it, there'll be a petition for social or i probably will accept it

and you know, we just aren't sure where, for example, you know, just as neil gorsuch or amy coney barrett might be because those two were certainly with the majority of the dabs opinion , but only two felt it was important to make clear their dissent in his dissent, alito said, and i want to read part of it, he said the government has not dispelled legitimate doubts that it would even obey unfavorable order in these cases , much less than it would choose to take enforcement actions to which it has strong objections and quote. now there have been democrats, including congresswoman alexandria, ocasio cortez on this program and at least one republican congresswoman nancy mace, who called the administration to just ignore the district court's ruling on mifepristone. um for its part, the administration said that disobeying the ruling would set a dangerous precedent. how remarkable is it that a supreme court justice? was publicly saying the executive branch. i mean, it was he saying they can't be trusted to follow a court order? yes. and as you just acknowledged all the signs from the biden adm

was the only justice who then went two years later when president trump had a celebration for amy coney barrett that's right. that's right, you know, looking at what president trump said over the weekend about the judge that he will be before in manhattan tomorrow and criticizing him publicly as he has done too many judges. it's notable to look in your book where you right, trump treated the judiciary as if it were his to command from his early weeks in office to his final weeks after he lost the 2020 election, and that is where he and the chief justice john roberts, really butted heads. yep you probably remember it was really an unprecedented clash a few months, actually, a few weeks only after the break. kavanaugh hearing when president trump was complaining about a judge who ruled against him in an asylum case, and he referred to the judge as an obama judge to, you know, deride him, and that was the only time the chief justice decided to say something public, and he issued that statement that said, we have no obama judges. we have no trump judges. we don't have bush or clinton judges. we jus

caller: i think it was kavanaugh, amy coney barrett, and maybe alito. that is when i'm not sure about. i watched the hearings and said they wouldn't touch anything about abortion and they overturned it, didn't they? host: from clark in west virginia, republican line, good morning. caller: let's get down to the facts. absolute power does what? corrupt. ok, no i don't have confidence in them. if we did what jesus tells us to do we wouldn't worry about what is going on in washington, d.c. we would help the crackheads and people who don't have jobs and children dropping out of school and trying to help our neighbors. these justices, i have no confidence in none of them. absolute power corrupts absolutely. host: that is the second time you said that. what is your associated -- your association between absolute power and corruption? caller: the president, congressman, these people don't answer to no one. these people off on the side threatening to do this and that, they never do anything. because, like i said, it goes on and on. you are the bait and switcher.

the case judge amy coney barrett looked at the same laws that were considered by the courts. but she reach a different conclusion about their meaning. she wrote quote history is consistent with common sense. demonstrates legislatures have the power to prohibit dangerous people from possessing guns". the central challenge for the second amendment today is ensuring history and common sense to not part ways. thank you for the opportunity to testify and i look forward to your questions are. >> thank you professor. >> good morning german durbin, ranking member graham and members of the committee. i would like to begin by thanking all for this perhaps the most single most important policy issue of our time. public safety especially gun violence. overarching point this morning is straightforward. when it comes the important issue public safety are most pressing promise on the possibility more at law-abiding citizens will not be able to carry firearms for self-defense in a small handful of states did not arty allow them to do so, it is that so many parts of the country legislative an

we should have court expansion to address how donald trump and mitch mcconnell, and jammed amy coney barrettall the reasons these stories are bringing to light thanks to the great reporting with propublica and heidi przybilla. they would deal with various problems arising out of the supreme court as a broken institution. we need all these things. >> let me come back, harry litman, to you law firm head gorsuch owned property a denver-based lawyer for greenburg representing north dakota in what became one of the most highly publicized rulings, a suit that reversed former president obama's plan to fight climate change with the clean air acted. gorsuch agreed with the plaintiffs including greenberg's client, that the epa had overstepped its authority by regulating carbon emissions from power plants in the decision that makes it more difficult for the executive branch to regulate emissions without express authorization from congress. i take your points about the hurdles to imposing on the court an ethics package, but why don't they have a system internally through their clerks or sort of self-pol

this case we saw the exact opposite rules apply when it came to donald trump, who could get amy coney barrett matter of months before the end of his term and these are the kinds of decisions that made it very clear to the american public that not only was ther ideology, on viewpoint, rather than protecting precedent and rights in terms of how justices were selected in the previous administration, but also we were going to see a rigging of the rules. now we're watching a court that has some real ethics issues arising publicly related to some of the most ideology judges on the bench. this is unfortunately an undermining of a democratic institution where it shouldn't be about ideology, it should be about rules of law, the constitution and precedent it's the first time in the history of our country where the supreme court took a fundamental right away from us they're also doing it with voting rights. they're going to continue to derive division i'm afraid to say if the ideology keeps playing out. >> i'm sure you share this feeling. i cover the politics of abortion reluctantly. it is a relief that

they faced down violent attacks, great supreme court justices , neil gorsuch, amy coney barrett and justices landmark victory for protecting innocent life. they said it would never happen, they said it would be another 50 years because republicans have been trying to do it or that period of time, exactly 50 years. i took historic action to protect the unborn. i reinstated and expanded the mexico policy, stopped taxpayer funding for abortion providers and made sure bureaucrats have no business attacking the sovereignty of nations that protect life and i was the first person to attend as you all know the march for life rally in washington dc, the first. i amended the vital institution of faith-based adoption and my administration restored religious liberty and protected the conscious rights of groups like the little sisters of the poor. we fought with them and we were very successful. we stopped, very importantly, the jobs and a minute from interfering with pastors, first amendments rights of people with faith and i stood proudly with our friend and ally the state of israel. i kept my promise

ire of some progressives, unhappy with her handling of confirmation of conservative justice amy coney barretto replaced liberal lion ruth bader ginsburg. >> this has been one of the best set of hearings that i participated in. >> if feinstein were to step down, governor gavin newsom would appoint her replacement. newsom, also a democrat, has said he would appoint a black woman to the job. hoda? >> ryan nobles for us there on capitol hill. thank you. >>> much more to get to, including the nba pro season. it is on. the chicago bulls got a surprising boost from the stands during their play-in game against the raptors last night. take a listen. >> here's the voice you're hearing when raptors shoot. she's screaming. >> that is the daughter of gold star damar derosen, screaming, on purpose she wanted to distract the raptors player at the free throw line again and again and did it work?d it [ screaming >> wow >> i believe it did. her efforts seem to help the raptors shot only 50% from the line bulls won by just four points and after the game, derosen said his daughter had begged him to travel to tor

he called out three of the four women who were on the court by name including amy coney barrett fromthem of hypocrisy because of the shadow docket. alito likes to use the shadow docket which is an emergency appeals process to uphold republican decisions from lower courts, even those that will likely over get -- and overturned eventually. in this case, the use the shadow docket to take down a conservative opinion from a lower court and suddenly, he is mad about that. he said you cannot use the shadow document that way but this way. it was actually funny watching alito convolute himself to make this argument. the upshot he is trying to get of here is that he doesn't mean if he takes a position on the case, even in the sentence you read, he is taking a position on the case and taking a position that the difference being approved for seven weeks after conception versus 10 weeks causes no real harm. it's the kind of analysis you make when you are a man and you think babies are brought by the stork. the difference between seven weeks and 10 weeks is significant for people were not planning

violent acts to confirm our three great supreme court justices, neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrettst year, after decades of work by organizations like yours, those justices delivered a landmark victory for protecting innocent life. nobody thought it was going to happen they thought it'd be another 50 years. because republicans had been trying to do it for exactly that period of time, 50 years from my first day in office, i took historic action to protect the unborn >> i'm pro life. i will tell ya, i was in the congress of the united states. i was certainly supportive of any pro life legislation that came before me i do think it's more likely that this issue is resolved at the state level, but i don't agree with the former president, who says this is a states only issue. i mean, we've been given a new beginning for life in this country. i think we have an opportunity to advance the sanctity of life. >> i think the republican party will be in good standing to oppose late-term abortion, like most of the civilized world. >> just for the record, roe went up to viability, but i want to b