amy cramer is co-founder of the women vote trump pac and the former chair of the tea party express. amy, good to have you with me. you probably have seen portions of the interview that melania gave last night. she calls her husband's words from the 2005 "access hollywood" hot mike moment boy talk. we'll remind people, donald trump is 59 years old at the time. would you characterize that type of language? and that conversation as just boy talk? >> thomas, thank you for having me. i do think it's a bunch of boy talk or locker room talk. and i know he might have been 59 years old at the time, but i also know that men get around each other on the golf course or at football games, baseball games, and they always want to one-up each other. we weren't there, we don't know -- we only heard a portion of the tape. i don't know if he was egged on or not, but he did apologize. and i think that the american people are very forgiving. and i think that they will forgive him. at tend of the day, i don't think that really matters about going forward in this election. >> now when we think about the ch

. >> talk about this, amy cramer is we w me, a trump supporter and co-chair of women vote trump. a is with us, a hillary clinton supporter. amy, let me begin with you. nine women now coming forward making these accusations against donald trump. the ninth within the past few hours, a 63-year-old woman here from new york city. do you think all of these nine women are lying? >> poppy, i don't know if they're lying or not. i'm not the one to judge that. i do know that every person in this country is innocent until proven guilty and you should have that day in a court of law. he has not had any charges brought against him and he has denied all these accusations and has said there will be proof coming forward and i know as you mentioned, there was a tamt that came out about one of the women already yesterday and i think a couple of other things, so, at this point, we have to wait and see. none of this is going to be resolved by november 8th, election day. it won't be resolved by then. >> you know, it's important you bring up the evidence statement made by the trump campaign. so, let's p

website dedicated into digging all of these up numbers, and also chairman of the democratic party and amy cramer-chair of the group women vote trump and supporter. it is stunning when you look at the map and you look at utah in play for the first time in since 1964. is there any precedent for someone this far behind on the electoral map to come back and win? >> well, what i would say is that there is no preprecedent, there are unexpected things. people are looking to whether there will be more revelations about donald trump or wikileaks. a piece compared to the 1948 race and one of the things that happened in that race is that they didn't have modern day polling. most of the major pollsters stopped before october. and so there was first of all a margin of 5 percentage pipts of victory in that race which is very significant, but most pollsters hadn't even looked at what was going on in a month and a quarter. so that explains that sort of historic gap. and we just don't have that these days. >> no, we have such recent polling and so much of it. scott, let me ask you this. as a hillary clinton supp