finally amy gutmann president of the university of pennsylvania and chair of the bioethics and quo author of the spirit of promise why campaigning under mines it. i am pleased to have each here for this information. what is it that this new president has to understand about america at this moment? >> well, i think that this new president is going to have to govern, and governing in a polarized society which we have and a society which has tremendous problem, budgetary economic, immigration, educational. the list goes on. governing is going to mean bipartisan deals. and so mario cuomo may have said that you campaign in poetry but you govern in prose. we've been campaigning and most of america would agree in fiction. it isn't tuned to anybody's ears that anybody wants to hum, we've got to govern, this president has got to tell people there's going to be some sacrifices everybody makes in order to get some gain and we need some big deals here. >> rose: david this is not likely to happen but suppose the president on november 7 calls you and says oh my god, i won, what do i do now. >> what do