dana milbank and perry bacon and amy holmes. amy, we'll start with you.ure it's a record, his all seven, the five major, telemundo and univision as well. was this about the new book or is this all about 2016? >> incredible. exceeded the full ginsberg which was the previous record during the monica lewinsky scandal and going bilingual along the way. sure. he's not made any real secret that he is thinking about running for president. i'm not sure the headlines he's been generating are exactly what he wants because it sounds like he's made this back flip on immigration, although now he's trying to walk away from a back flip, and that becomes a rather awkward gymnastics routine for him, but he's definitely getting his marker out there and letting other would-be candidates know that he wants to be in there and that may crowd some of them out of the field. >> what do you think, amy holmes? do you think -- no, what do you think it was about? >> of course he wants to be on the national stage and wants to sell some books. we know back in 2012 he said no, he wouldn

joining me now is amy holmes anchor of real news, on the blaze. > good morning. >> and jason johnson, he's with me now, professor of political science and chief political correspondent for politics35.com. amy, is this an overreaction at this point, condemning this comment by a congressman who has been around the block a few times? >> i don't think it's an overreaction. i think it's totally appropriate for republican leadership, and republicans more generally to denounce these remarks. they're completely beneath the dignity of the office as speaker john boehner had to say and absurd in this day and age that a public official would use such a term. you know, i think deservedly he has been condemned and rightly he's apologized. >> so, jason, let me ask you, would we have heard this -- let's say ten months ago, would we have heard such a strong condemnation for this? >> yes. the republican party is serious about trying to court minority voters. they lost the last election because they continued to offend and annoy african-americans and latin americans

>> dana milbank, what's your -- >> i'm a nonpartisan hack. >> mine is, amy holmes eschews nonpartisanl. mine is antonin scalia, in a shift, will wed clarence thomas, says the oral arguments on gay marriage caused him to evolve. >> that's exhale pretty funny. what do you think, generally speaking of the arguments last week you heard and saw before the court? >> last week, before the court, i think the arguments, mirrored what's been going on across the country generally. it's very clear that led by anthony kennedy, they're going to knock down the defense of marriage act, and one way or the other, whatever they decide on the california case, these guys aren't going to be get in the way of the inevitable march toward gay marriage. >> amy, it also struck me that one justice, question standing, and another justice, but one of them or maybe two of them said, should we even be hearing this? how did this get before us? >> that was interesting and that had to do with standing and basically if they say, we shouldn't have heard this in the first place on prop 8, that means the appeals court over

talk about it with maria cardona, hi, maria, and amy holmes. hi. n't spoken to you in forever. >> such a plesh perp thank you for having me. >> amy is a news anchor. and a little background for both of you and our viewers pap few days ago president barack obama and-of-featured victims of gun vile, around sured them he hasn't forgotten about them. today on cnn's "state of the union" republican lindsey graham says the checks already in place aren't being enforced. >> before you'd expand a background check, there are 76,000 people last year failed a background check and less than 1% gauss prosecuted. there are 9,000 people in 2010 fail add background check who are felons on the run and none were prosecuted. before you extend back ground checks to include private individuals, let's put resources into the current system we have that's clearly broken. >> okay. so, listen, i'm not sure where we are on this, amy and maria, but, maria, democrats need senators like lindsey graham on tough issues like this. is the president's gun control agenda in big trouble?

joining me now to talk about this, cnn contributor, maria cardona, and amy holmes, the anchor of "realthe blaze." amy, you first. did clinton's op ed surprise you at all? >> it didn't surprise me that president clinton is a supporter of gay marriage. in fact, in 1996, a lot of observers thought that his defense of, you know, "traditional marriage" was entirely political, particularly given his own flexible interpretation of the institution in his own personal life. i think what is surprising and important is that a former president of the united states published this op-ed. i think it has real political import, whether or not it will sway the supreme court is another matter. >> maria, as you know, the obama administration has filed a brief pushing for prop 8 to be overturned so it's not maybe that unusual that a president might take a stand on a policy. but have we ever seen a sitting president do something like this? basically asking the supreme court to strike down a law that that president signed? >> well, no. i think if you look at the history of president clinton, he is not one to

wise researcher amie holmes showed me what scientists can say for certain about the link between chromium 6 and cancer. these are slides of human lung cells in the midst of replicating-- a process called mitosis. in normal cells, there are two centrosomes-- the orange dots. they search and capture 46 chromosomes each, then pull apart making an identical daughter cell. >> you want to make sure that each cell has the same amount of d.n.a. in each. >> reporter: take a look at these lung cells exposed to chromium 6. notice the orange centrosomes; instead of two, there are four. >> what's going to happen, when this cell divides, instead of dividing into two, it could potentially pull the dna into four or it's going to unevenly separate the dna. >> reporter: with four centrosomes, it's not going to end well. >> it's not going to end well. >> reporter: scientists call this centrosome amplification. they suspect chromium 6 changes the chemistry of the proteins in our cells and that creates the extra centrosomes. the resulting defective cells, that survive, are what we call cancer. >> yeah, it cau

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amy holmes. erin carmone. and jimmy williams. let's go first, everyone, to capital conundrum.followed by former white house press secretary robert gibbs. >> is force congress to do the right thing. the american people may have the capacity to do that. >> many people in congress are far more concerned about a primary challenge from their right in the case of house republicans than they ever are about being in a district where a democrat can beat them. so right now there isn't a lot that compels working across party lines right now. >> and so my question to you, amy, first, that is eve fn the president calls on people to do for the greater good, isn't the fear of being primaried really, personally at home, isn't that going to take precedence and trump these polpoliticians? >> i can understand why the former press secretary is trying to shift blame. let's talk about the problem congress is facing with sequestration. house republicans gave the president is opportunity to pick and choose these cuts more wisely. now we're moving to a government shutdown. i think the american people

also an msnbc crib tor and amy holmes is an anchor at the blaze.she is not on twitter. don't try to tweet her. the solicitor general can't answer the question about whether southerners are racist. in an article that you wrote you said that the question that the chief justice that he posed, that the question itself was unfair. why do you think so? >> i don't think it was unfair. i thought it was a surprising question. it was a trap question. how do you say one party is more racist than the other or less racist or so on? the question goes to the point that the conservative jus stiss, robert scalia, et cetera, they feel that the country is moving to a post racial direction. they're trying to get this all cut out of it. they want to get rid of the voting rights sector. they get rid of integration plans. and we're going to move beyond race and the first step to get there is to get it out of our laws versus a lot of people feel like we're not beyond race yet. we had a bunch of voter id laws. bhit unemployment is 7%. we have to acknowledge the racial diff