amy nelson joins us now from seattle.st of all, what do you make of elon musk's response to your piece, which appears to be his first public response to this "new york times" interview, which said he alternated between laughter and tears? amy: hi, emily. it was an interesting response. i think mr. musk remained quiet for a week and he had a lot of options here. he could have said nothing at all. instead, he chose to deny crying. i think it's interesting how it speaks to the piece itself in talking how men and women are treated differently in the workplace and i think we view ourselves differently, too. we've read so many articles about elon musk yelling at employees, at journalists, and he has never denied those but here he stood up, and said, i deny crying. what does that mean? emily: do you think if marissa mayer cried in an interview they -- that investors or analysts's would have any sympathy for her? amy: they would view her as being weak. in society we look at women and men with different lenses. women have to walk