but you also said that you didn't believe that it was an anti-west sentiment. an anti-riches, an anti-capitalism. i'm not sure that's true, is it? certainly, if you were to interview the 9/11 attackers, i'm pretty damned sure they would also say, we are against western values. we are against capitalism and so on. >> well, there's no evidence to that. if you read robert pape and michael sure, you'll fine out they're pretty much the experts on the subject, and that's not their conclusion. but if you look at the 9/11 commission, look at the dodd studies, look at the cia, even if you look at what paul wolfowitz has said, you know, the great neocon, they've come to the conclusion that our presence in the middle east was the most significant event on why they wanted to come here and kill us. >> let's assume you become president ron paul. if iran was to strike back at israel, what would you do? >> well, i'd go and look to the rules and the rules are that if our national security is threatened, you explain it to the people and then you go to the congress and say, is our national secu