we had an el nino year when i was born. i was born in southern california. i think it was -- it would be obviously '76 when my dad was -- >> larry: this famous picture here, you're how old here? >> i'm 3 or 4. >> larry: were you consciously aware i'm going to hit the ball and going for the hole? >> i loved hitting the golf ball and competing and i loved more than anything being with my dad doing these things and trying to beat him, because he was pretty good. >> larry: he's got a new book out, right? >> he has a new book out. he's on tour today right now. >> larry: would you say you had for want a better term a natural affinity for the the game? >> i did. during this el nino year he built, as you saw in the screen, an indoor little net and mat. that's how i watched. i watched my dad hit balls. we got so bad my mom would want to take me out for a feeding, and i would cry and kick and throw a fit. what she would do is my dad would be here, hit a golf ball, i would watch it go to the net and she would feed me. that's how i learned the game. >> larry: how did el