it took the radius maps that were given by expresso subito and prepared by radius services in conformance with the guidelines >> thank you. i want to give you an opportunity to articulate your own position. >> i did not refer to the guidelines. i referred it to the public works code section 184.88. where it uses "block face," if you know the address ever the cart. for it's a push cart and you don't put an address, then you go to assessor's block, in which it's a bigger area, because you haven't listed an address. it's very clear, one uses block face. the other uses assessor's block. >> so no address, assessor, address specified, block face. >> correct. it's not defined necessarily in the mff code, but it's defined elsewhere in the public works code as basically being surrounded by four streets. >> okay. >> in this instance, they just got it wrong. they got it wrong >> thank you. >> i need one minute. >> no. mr. kwong. >> excuse me. >> are you sick already? >> i'm starting to come down with something. >> sorry. >> good evening commissioners, john kwong from the department of public works. in the rebuttal, when i was listening to rebuttal, it st