and my colleague at bennington, anabel davis, who's a writer and and teacher at bennington, decided thatught this is quite fabulous and she would try to start a similar one at bennington. and so she contacted a prison, which is it's not that close. it's about an hour from bennington in comstock, new york. and after men's maximum security prison and after a lot of jumping through hoops and filling out forms and a lot of security issues, she was able to start the program. and i'm thinking that must be, i don't know, maybe close to ten years ago, seven or eight years ago at least. and i got involved in it through her. she's somebody i admire and take her advice. and she said, i would love to teaching there, which in fact is true, which is great. well, what were you teaching at bennington and what were you teaching at the prison? at bennington, i taught literature and it's a small department, so we've sat had a very wide sort of range of things that we all tried to do. and i found myself sort of specializing in 18th century stuff because that seemed to be lacking at the college. and i though

and my colleague at bennington, anabel davis, who's a writer and and teacher at bennington, decided that she thought this is quite fabulous and she would try to start a similar one at bennington. and so she contacted a prison, which is it's not that close. it's about an hour from bennington in comstock, new york. and after men's maximum security prison and after a lot of jumping through hoops and filling out forms and a lot of security issues, she was able to start the program. and i'm thinking that must be, i don't know, maybe close to ten years ago, seven or eight years ago at least. and i got involved in it through her. she's somebody i admire and take her advice. and she said, i would love to teaching there, which in fact is true, which is great. well, what were you teaching at bennington and what were you teaching at the prison? at bennington, i taught literature and it's a small department, so we've sat had a very wide sort of range of things that we all tried to do. and i found myself sort of specializing in 18th century stuff because that seemed to be lacking at the college. and