my father taught me a game called anagram. we played anagrams two or three times a week until i was 11 or 12. and then he says, you are getting too good for me. and you cannot be a writer without being a reader. and we read. tavis: you read incessantly, both of you. what kind of stuff do you read? magazines, books? >> everything. >> maryland read magazines. and newspapers much more than i do. -- marilyn reads magazines. >> it is true about reading. anagrams is about wordplay but reading is really about falling in love with words and storytelling. i think that pre-television when we were children, i do not think that can be underestimated. the way that one would spend an afternoon or evening was to read a book, and i think what alan says, it cannot be a writer without being a reader. it is true, very true. tavis: one could argue that, i will for the sake of debate to your point. one could argue that the grand tradition that you will have continued to advance is on life support, if you have to be a reader because who was reading

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another is a criminal offense for the go anagram seeking or holding jobs. also the arrest of suspected illegal immigrants without warrants. we get that from "the new york times." what does that concern you the most? >> guest: i think the implication that allows arizona to us for immigration database is a win. how do we apply that is going to be something different. if you go further and will limit the other striking down, the congress is allowed to almost an invitation that if we choose to imply that states could have a bigger role in it, that we could. that is some mean that we took as an invitation and were actually going to work on that. >> host: dan is a republican caller in maryland. >> caller: thank you. as i understood it, the supreme court was once again basically said they could not take the job both the federal government, but they did they did what happens if the government fails to do their job or refuses to do their job. a prime example what's happening in florida where they get to eat verify, what is legally allowed to vote. right now they giv