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cambridge analytic of obtaining data without their permission in what could be the first of many lawsuits this comes as pressure continues to grow on facebook over revelations that personal data from the social media site was misused by the u.k. analytics company c.e.o. mark zuckerberg is believed to be ready to make a statement within the next twenty four hours marianna takes a look now at what we know so far about cambridge analytical operations. cambridge analytic care executive say publicly at least that they helped politicians win elections what the companies accused of secretly and improperly manipulation votes is the famous perhaps best known for its work in the u.s. on donald trump's presidential campaign two years ago it began operating there in two thousand and thirteen when it was formed from its parent company is c.l. and with the involvement of conservative steve benen but its operations extend well beyond america cambridge analytic has executives have reportedly boasted of targeting will than two hundred elections around the world including in kenya nigeria india the czech r
cambridge analytic of obtaining data without their permission in what could be the first of many lawsuits this comes as pressure continues to grow on facebook over revelations that personal data from the social media site was misused by the u.k. analytics company c.e.o. mark zuckerberg is believed to be ready to make a statement within the next twenty four hours marianna takes a look now at what we know so far about cambridge analytical operations. cambridge analytic care executive say publicly...
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says she doesn't believe the government has any contracts with the parent company or cambridge analytic of their checking right now she's also faced accusations that one big tory party conservative party donor was the director of. she says that the party was in discussions with the with. when david cameron was prime minister but it didn't go anywhere so nothing to see here is the the message and also backing an investigation into those latest allegations thank you very much indeed it cambridge analytical offices in central london. all now in another story we're covering the european union has set out plans to increase the tax paid by digital companies finance commissioner. says he wants firms with large digital revenues in europe to pay a tax of three percent of that turnover plans won't come into force unless they're backed by the european parliament and the twenty eight e.u. countries says he's not specifically targeting the group of companies sometimes called google apple facebook and amazon this is neither a get fact that's north and u.s. tax proposal doesn't target any company or any
says she doesn't believe the government has any contracts with the parent company or cambridge analytic of their checking right now she's also faced accusations that one big tory party conservative party donor was the director of. she says that the party was in discussions with the with. when david cameron was prime minister but it didn't go anywhere so nothing to see here is the the message and also backing an investigation into those latest allegations thank you very much indeed it cambridge...
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the next twenty four hours we're told that four days after the company at the center of it all cambridge analytical is accused of gaining unauthorized access to fifty million facebook users mike hanna has more from washington. the senate intelligence committee is holding a hearing on capitol hill in the course of the stay weather permitting that is in which it will be investigating election security now as part of this hearing that wants to speak to senior tech officials from the social media companies in particular the founder of facebook mark zuckerberg who is companies in the midst of a massive scandal in terms of its providing data to an analytical company but it's not mark zuckerberg whereabouts not clear at this moment at the space book had an internal meeting in the course of tuesday night the chief operating officer sheryl sandberg or mark zuckerberg himself were present at that meeting and certainly a great degree of public discomfort facebook shares have been slashed on the stock exchange there's also investigations being launched by new york state as well as new jersey and the financial
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of cambridge analytic of the five accused of misusing data from fifty million facebook users has been suspended facebook is also on demand thing precious to explain its role in the scandal politicians in the u.s. and here in the k. and syrian state media says thirty five people have been killed after a rocket fired by opposition fighters landed in a marketplace in the government held area of damascus. russian diplomats and their families have left the u.k. in a row over the poisoning of a former spy in seoul is free but nick is his most school of using the nerve agent nova chalk in an attack on surrogate and his daughter are still critically ill in hospital barnaby phillips reports. an abrupt farewell to colleagues and some people diplomats and families are believed to have left the russian embassy for those on their way and those left behind this is not being a happy day. to hold a reception for those leaving a few days ago the mood appears to be. those being expelled would resume their diplomatic careers elsewhere. so the diplomats and their families have left they will argue that t
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scandal facebook says that alexander colgan violated its policies by passing the data on to cambridge analytic of the u.k.'s based u.k. based firm is now in hot water after its c.e.o. was filmed by undercover reporters boasting about the dirty tricks he uses to swing election results the center of london home to cambridge analytics. the firm c.e.o. had a reputation for enjoying media attention but in the past few days alexander nick seemed less happy in the media spotlight. on tuesday cambridge analytical suspended next following an undercover investigation by british broadcaster channel four he was secretly filmed by repulsion posing as a client seeking to get candidates elected alexander nix outlines and data tricks to help things such as blackmail. be effective and be just to get the. speech to be of interest. that it. is to get to the truth of the fiction that it's the video footage there or entrapping politicians by filming them in compromising situations that get through to the candidates that. we have seen this year with. shortly before being suspended next told b.b.c. he was exaggerating
scandal facebook says that alexander colgan violated its policies by passing the data on to cambridge analytic of the u.k.'s based u.k. based firm is now in hot water after its c.e.o. was filmed by undercover reporters boasting about the dirty tricks he uses to swing election results the center of london home to cambridge analytics. the firm c.e.o. had a reputation for enjoying media attention but in the past few days alexander nick seemed less happy in the media spotlight. on tuesday cambridge...
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didn't tell them at the time why were only finding out about this now he in effect through cambridge analytic of this data services firm at the center of this controversy and the boss by positioning facebook as having been as deceived as os the users when we know that this was allowed to happen because of facebook's you know inadequate policies he hasn't explained fully how facebook can protect us from being manipulated politically because as we know during election cycles there are problems with things like russian propaganda he did in another interview explain that during our last year special election in alabama facebook deployed artificial intelligence to try and crack down on this propaganda so we'd like to know a bit more about that one thing he did promise he's promised to limit develop his information to. add to our information is something that facebook did in twenty fourteen when it found out its daughter was being abused but of course there are new fire. out about all of this now he said to be willing to testify before congress he doesn't totally opposed calls to regulate social media
didn't tell them at the time why were only finding out about this now he in effect through cambridge analytic of this data services firm at the center of this controversy and the boss by positioning facebook as having been as deceived as os the users when we know that this was allowed to happen because of facebook's you know inadequate policies he hasn't explained fully how facebook can protect us from being manipulated politically because as we know during election cycles there are problems...
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analytical to sort of bring this into the public eye more evidence is emerging that the parent company off cambridge analytic a company called strategic communications and the board theories which has their past in the military background that this company used to work all over the world influencing elections for instance in kenya for instance in caribbean countries and there is evidence for that and they hadn't even government funded parts for that for those actions so the scandal grows by the day. that was barbara vai's old there reporting from london now let's catch up on some other stories making news around the world today an explosion in the afghan capital kabul has left at least twenty six people dead and about twenty others wounded the afghan interior ministry says a suicide bomber on foot definitely did his explosives on a road leading to a shiite shrine. and myanmar's first civilian president hootin jaw has resigned saying he wants to take a rest from his current work he's a close ally of defacto leader own son suchi who is barred from the pre
analytical to sort of bring this into the public eye more evidence is emerging that the parent company off cambridge analytic a company called strategic communications and the board theories which has their past in the military background that this company used to work all over the world influencing elections for instance in kenya for instance in caribbean countries and there is evidence for that and they hadn't even government funded parts for that for those actions so the scandal grows by the...
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company called cambridge and then let it go then he would go to get through the main funder of cambridge analytic. robert byrd's are doing to get the right library of that girl is going to do something one day your baby is going to be subject to no other television shows because there's too long and weird but maybe like i go back tattoo artist you know. which i assume is called a fat true artist i mean why would i want to be but seriously this just goes to show that if you harp on a story and i hammer away at it and don't stop talking about it the corporate media will cover it about a year after it's relevant. because china's. and media is on top of this cambridge analytical story like white on rice like white on the oz ckers you know that. they've got. they've got face took on their heels trying to explain how they allowed this data to be used by the trump campaign to manipulate peta people so where exactly do you think they'll notice that in the wiki leaks predestiny e-mails we learned sheryl sandberg the chief operating officer of facebook emails podesta during the election and said i still wa
company called cambridge and then let it go then he would go to get through the main funder of cambridge analytic. robert byrd's are doing to get the right library of that girl is going to do something one day your baby is going to be subject to no other television shows because there's too long and weird but maybe like i go back tattoo artist you know. which i assume is called a fat true artist i mean why would i want to be but seriously this just goes to show that if you harp on a story and i...
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gets linked in a sort of murky way to the cambridge analytic of story because what this money was using facebook and google data to build profiles of people and target entering the eu referendum so it is quite a clever way of linking a rather convoluted story about electoral finance laws with the cambridge story would have been seeing over the last week. henry, the underlying allegation i guess is somehow, there was some kind of intention behind this to fix a result? yes, the vote leave, boris johnson michael gove group had raised more money than it could legally spencer white had to find outlets and the fundamentals are logical, if you had extra money, would you trust it to a 22 new role to spend? three quarters of £1 million. or would you have insisted oi'i million. or would you have insisted on how they spent it. if they did control it is against the law. it is clear someone is lying here. there is also a question in the piece, as if it wasn't enough layers of complexity, there is a suggestion that the information commissioner is asking questions about where the b
gets linked in a sort of murky way to the cambridge analytic of story because what this money was using facebook and google data to build profiles of people and target entering the eu referendum so it is quite a clever way of linking a rather convoluted story about electoral finance laws with the cambridge story would have been seeing over the last week. henry, the underlying allegation i guess is somehow, there was some kind of intention behind this to fix a result? yes, the vote leave, boris...
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help the trump presidential campaign drums campaign manager steve bannon was on the board of cambridge analytical. ok let's bring in our guest now in the pittsburgh via skype laurie my good c.e.o. of connect safely dot org in london jason moon an ethical hacker an internet security specialist and in rome gree hassel that counts co-founder of data ethics at e.u. that's an independent think tank promoting data ethical products and services thank you very much all of you for joining us today larry start with you ought to rather unsettling aspects of this story have one that personal data was harvested the other that it was used to manipulate voters but who's the real bad guy here is it facebook or is it came. well or is it the professor who gathered this information presumably for academic research and then provided it to cambridge analytic of facebook is blaming him saying that he violated their agreement although he is actually pushing back i was reading this interview with him a few minutes ago i think with the b.b.c. where he said that in fact that what he was doing was perfectly normal and par
help the trump presidential campaign drums campaign manager steve bannon was on the board of cambridge analytical. ok let's bring in our guest now in the pittsburgh via skype laurie my good c.e.o. of connect safely dot org in london jason moon an ethical hacker an internet security specialist and in rome gree hassel that counts co-founder of data ethics at e.u. that's an independent think tank promoting data ethical products and services thank you very much all of you for joining us today larry...
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corporations, including the use of facebook data by the political research firm cambridge analytic.sa -- analytic of. -- cambridge analytica. until then, the white house press briefing. [crowd noise] mr. shah: good afternoon. let me start by saying the united states is deeply saddened by the news of yesterday's tragic fire in siberia. the american people extend our deepest sympathies to the russian people, the families of those who lost their lives and were injured in the fire. separately, as many of you saw, the president or the expulsion of russian intelligence officers. this is a response to russia's use of a chemical weapon in united kingdom, and was taken in conjunction with our allies and partners around the world. including more than a dozen countries in the eu, and nato, and others around the world. today's actions make united states safer by reducing russia's ability to spy on --ricans and to convert conduct covert operations and threaten national security. the u.s. and allies and partners make clear to russia that actions have consequences. we stand ready to cooperate, to build a better ru
corporations, including the use of facebook data by the political research firm cambridge analytic.sa -- analytic of. -- cambridge analytica. until then, the white house press briefing. [crowd noise] mr. shah: good afternoon. let me start by saying the united states is deeply saddened by the news of yesterday's tragic fire in siberia. the american people extend our deepest sympathies to the russian people, the families of those who lost their lives and were injured in the fire. separately, as...
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purposes and it wasn't intended to be that way now according to a former staff member of britain's cambridge analytic up the personal data of about fifty million facebook accounts was misused during the twenty sixteen u.s. presidential election on facebook has announced a thorough investigation on what went wrong c.e.o. mark zuckerberg is facing some serious questions. facebook's mark zuckerberg enjoys the limelight as much as the next guy had least when the news is good but as far as the latest data scandal is concerned he's keeping a low profile more than two years ago his company discovered that cambridge analytical was using a data leaked to spy on fifty million of facebook's uses but facebook failed to inform those affected cambridge analytical was simply told to delete the data which according to media reports never happened instead facebook has opted to delete the accounts of those who brought the scandal to light people like chris wiley former research director at cambridge analytical as part of an investigation by channel four news in the u.k. he described how the company worked a magic when
purposes and it wasn't intended to be that way now according to a former staff member of britain's cambridge analytic up the personal data of about fifty million facebook accounts was misused during the twenty sixteen u.s. presidential election on facebook has announced a thorough investigation on what went wrong c.e.o. mark zuckerberg is facing some serious questions. facebook's mark zuckerberg enjoys the limelight as much as the next guy had least when the news is good but as far as the...
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and regulators are putting new pressure on facebook in the wake of its dealings with cambridge analytic of the company says that it's specs to be questioned by the leading u.s. consumer regular agency over the data acquired by more than fifty million facebook profiles facebook's shares have plummeted over the last two days the company has now lost sixty billion of its stock market value in the wake of fears about lost advertising and new regulations facebook was also hit with a class action lawsuit in san francisco court on tuesday the first of many potential lawsuits by shareholders claiming losses because the company misled them about its ability to protect user data south africa has declared its current drought a national disaster water levels are so low people are only allowed minimal quantities especially in big cities stis doesn't only affect the everyday lives but of course businesses as well south africa's wine industry one of the leading worldwide is among the ones hardest hit. if three year long drought in the western cape has caused the region's dams to reach critically low wate
and regulators are putting new pressure on facebook in the wake of its dealings with cambridge analytic of the company says that it's specs to be questioned by the leading u.s. consumer regular agency over the data acquired by more than fifty million facebook profiles facebook's shares have plummeted over the last two days the company has now lost sixty billion of its stock market value in the wake of fears about lost advertising and new regulations facebook was also hit with a class action...
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larges percentage decline in four years dropping losing 36.4 in billion market value with news of cambridge analytic a and in the editorial section in the new york times is saying facebook cannot police itself calling on congress to strengthen privacyre laws in the wake of this incident. leading the charge in congress. >> i was a senator warner has been out front on this issue one of the biggest critics of the tech companies not just with regard to this but also the ads sold to the internet research agency the election propaganda group so they introduce the honest ads act that would require a more transparent digital ad but they say paid for by donald trump for hillary clinton no such regulationidor exists for digital ads they are trying to introduce that but of course the companies are trying to promising asby the editorial states if whether it can't police itself but even the u.k. and eu are way ahead of america with privacy protection the u.k. has data privacy laws that they have to request data and allow them to ask for that data to be erased or corrected in new regulation is coming so i was 80
larges percentage decline in four years dropping losing 36.4 in billion market value with news of cambridge analytic a and in the editorial section in the new york times is saying facebook cannot police itself calling on congress to strengthen privacyre laws in the wake of this incident. leading the charge in congress. >> i was a senator warner has been out front on this issue one of the biggest critics of the tech companies not just with regard to this but also the ads sold to the...
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have been fiddling with our elections and so on but except of course for the briggs's vote which went the way they wanted and cambridge analytical were involved very much in once as has been exposed by karel cadwallader here in the guardian newspaper and it's a sting operation by channel four. which is actually exposed to all of the recent. skullduggery as it were. it is going to be an outcry over this does not mean this have to be the same over president obama's election and with the help of information from facebook. well i think the fact of the matter is that there's faulty much money in western elections there's the rules about it on incredibly lax especially in the us where private corporations can chuck any amount of money at an election and done enough to say that they spends it or account for it in better run countries that are in scandinavia there are very strict rules about how much money can be spent on elections and who can spend it effectively elections are funded by the government and people and the political parties get funded according to their level of support that's certainly not the case in the us and you know
have been fiddling with our elections and so on but except of course for the briggs's vote which went the way they wanted and cambridge analytical were involved very much in once as has been exposed by karel cadwallader here in the guardian newspaper and it's a sting operation by channel four. which is actually exposed to all of the recent. skullduggery as it were. it is going to be an outcry over this does not mean this have to be the same over president obama's election and with the help of...
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exposed the private information of another fifty million americans enabling cambridge analytic to target those people with specifically tailored political ads on behalf of its client presidential candidate donald trump. when you authorize those apps to access your profile you're potentially giving away huge amounts of information and so whilst face that sensibly stuns and outraged by this kind of data collection is exactly what the platform does exactly the platforms they're for and what the policy specifically allowed back in twenty four now we should be shocked about this but we shouldn't be surprised companies and app developers. and scientists could develop apps plug them into the facebook system and get access to all this rich data you know scholars who have been watching facebook have been raising alarms about this since two thousand and ten nobody was listening nobody listened except a few regulators in europe and in washington d.c. and facebook encouraged it this was facebook policy so now that facebook people are acting all surprised all hurt like they're the victims i have to l
exposed the private information of another fifty million americans enabling cambridge analytic to target those people with specifically tailored political ads on behalf of its client presidential candidate donald trump. when you authorize those apps to access your profile you're potentially giving away huge amounts of information and so whilst face that sensibly stuns and outraged by this kind of data collection is exactly what the platform does exactly the platforms they're for and what the...
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of cambridge analytic alexander nix has been suspended that's the company alleged to have misused data that it gleaned from some fifty million facebook users firms accused of using the information to manipulate public opinion in the run up to the twenty sixteen presidential election facebook is also on the increasing pressure to explain how it allowed its users data to be mined in the first place and why it didn't inform them so you gave of course. a virtual world with a very real money making data trail users of social media platforms unaware how profitable the information they have is for those who are willing to access it the scandal involving facebook may make many of us reconsider that. cambridge analytical is accused of misusing the data of millions of facebook uses a whistleblower who works for the british based data mining firm says the information was used to build a system which may have influenced voters in the u.s. presidential election and other votes to data was used to create profiling algorithms that would allow us to explore mental vulnerabilities of people and then ma
of cambridge analytic alexander nix has been suspended that's the company alleged to have misused data that it gleaned from some fifty million facebook users firms accused of using the information to manipulate public opinion in the run up to the twenty sixteen presidential election facebook is also on the increasing pressure to explain how it allowed its users data to be mined in the first place and why it didn't inform them so you gave of course. a virtual world with a very real money making...
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media and sport committee of mps, has put out a statement saying he has accused check —— cambridge analytic ofdence last month. by giving false statements. he will be calling them back to appear before mps in them back to appear before mps in the very near future will stop on top of that, damian collins said facebook knew about this harvesting of personal information and the involvement of cambridge analytic had deliberately avoided answering straight questions. this has been ratcheted up a notch by mps about this issue and how you care for personal information. 13 people have been injured after a car was driven into a nightclub in gravesend, in kent. a man's been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. vishala sri—pathma reports. this was moments after a 4x4 car drove into blake's nightclub in kent. terrified clubbers scrambled to safety as security staff moved in. at least two individuals were seen hit by the vehicle, the police believe the driver was asked to leave the club following an earlier incident. police and fire rescue services were called to the scene where detectives have remai
media and sport committee of mps, has put out a statement saying he has accused check —— cambridge analytic ofdence last month. by giving false statements. he will be calling them back to appear before mps in them back to appear before mps in the very near future will stop on top of that, damian collins said facebook knew about this harvesting of personal information and the involvement of cambridge analytic had deliberately avoided answering straight questions. this has been ratcheted up a...
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news reports of cambridge analytical abuse of private face to influence the twenty six election is verydisturbing the senate judiciary committee needs to fully investigate the matter so all we've heard from facebook so far is the statement denying any wrongdoing and also kind of laying the burden of responsibility on these uses these two hundred seventy thousand users who are in the very beginning downloaded or gave. personality access to their profile what they didn't know is there were two hundred seventy spiraled to become fifty million because these people probably didn't realize that they were giving this access to their friends list and their information to have someone on the show last night saying that it was in the fine print the people agreed to but no one reads the fine print anyway how users however they've been reacting to these stunning reports will at the moment delete facebook is a hash tag that's trending not on facebook but on twitter people are saying look this is outrageous i'm going to delete my account you have to keep in mind that of course some people are going t
news reports of cambridge analytical abuse of private face to influence the twenty six election is verydisturbing the senate judiciary committee needs to fully investigate the matter so all we've heard from facebook so far is the statement denying any wrongdoing and also kind of laying the burden of responsibility on these uses these two hundred seventy thousand users who are in the very beginning downloaded or gave. personality access to their profile what they didn't know is there were two...
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analytical to sort of bring this into the public eye more evidence isemerging that the parent company off cambridge analytic a company called strategic communications laborde theories which has their past in the military background that this company used to work all over the world influencing elections for instance in kenya for instance in caribbean countries and they there is evidence for that and they hadn't even government funded parts for that for those actions so the scandal grows by the day well not surprisingly barbara u.k. lawmakers have called on mark zuckerberg of facebook to testify before select committee they want to hear what he has to say about all this is he likely to comply. we don't know this but they have invited him they have given him until next week to say if and when he will come but remember rupert murdoch i mean that was he appeared and he had to appear before the parliamentary committee and that was a sort of like a crucial moment for his company so again something similar might happen was mark zuckerberg today the parliamentar
analytical to sort of bring this into the public eye more evidence isemerging that the parent company off cambridge analytic a company called strategic communications laborde theories which has their past in the military background that this company used to work all over the world influencing elections for instance in kenya for instance in caribbean countries and they there is evidence for that and they hadn't even government funded parts for that for those actions so the scandal grows by the...
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analytics company facebook shares of. few days which cost it fifty billion dollars in market value but a us resident is now suing the firm and the u.k. company cambridge analytical for obtaining data without they uses permission and what could be the first of many lawsuits c.e.o. mark zuckerberg is believed to be ready to make a statement within the next twenty four hours or campaigns have already started world wide for people to delete their facebook accounts but customers in internet cafe had mixed feelings. i'm a little bit worried about what facebook is doing with my information force in this last information with regard to the price moves is getting even stronger when weird things show my face go down like i that's exactly why i just been searching the internet freaks me out how close to an academic facebook too i often thought about the latest face post but when you're in the united states no one uses what is out to kill facebook is the only means to communicate so you should be safe i want to later it's even if it m
analytics company facebook shares of. few days which cost it fifty billion dollars in market value but a us resident is now suing the firm and the u.k. company cambridge analytical for obtaining data without they uses permission and what could be the first of many lawsuits c.e.o. mark zuckerberg is believed to be ready to make a statement within the next twenty four hours or campaigns have already started world wide for people to delete their facebook accounts but customers in internet cafe had...
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and part of the be a performer of time it do you think very that europe is being impacted the way that the u.s. so with its election we also know that cambridge analytic a played a role in the kenyan election is it the same for europe. well in europe we have a history of having stronger laws so it's harder to assemble a large data set that can reach out it's just needs basically to act i think that the most important is that europe is defending itself already by and acting a new law at european level that will come into force in may and that promise is much much tighter and foresman ok olivier thanks very much for presenting taking the time and talking with us tonight you can for the united nations has declared today international day for the elimination of racial discrimination it's a worldwide far right and one very relevant here in germany human rights activists say that some germans dismiss racism as an historic problem associated with the nazis but for people of color it's an everyday experience. to germans to foreigners they all share an apartment in germany each of them has experienced racism. each of them fights in his or her own way to feel l
and part of the be a performer of time it do you think very that europe is being impacted the way that the u.s. so with its election we also know that cambridge analytic a played a role in the kenyan election is it the same for europe. well in europe we have a history of having stronger laws so it's harder to assemble a large data set that can reach out it's just needs basically to act i think that the most important is that europe is defending itself already by and acting a new law at european...
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mark zuckerberg finally broke his silence four days after british media exposed the actions of cambridge analytical mike hanna as the latest after a dramatic day of developments hit the nail on the head a hearing on election security by the senate intelligence committee john discussion about how to protect the electoral process from outside agencies in the light of social media interference some twenty sixteen the elephant not in the room though is facebook founder mark zuckerberg he and facebook chief operating officer sheryl sandberg were also absent from an internal facebook meeting tuesday that was addressed by legal executives zucker burke has released a lengthy statement acknowledging that there were failures in facebook's protection of data he continues i started facebook and at the end of the day i'm responsible for what happens on our platform i'm serious about doing what it takes to protect our community while the specific issue involving cambridge analytics. should no longer happen with new apps today that doesn't change what happened in the past we will learn from this experience to sec
mark zuckerberg finally broke his silence four days after british media exposed the actions of cambridge analytical mike hanna as the latest after a dramatic day of developments hit the nail on the head a hearing on election security by the senate intelligence committee john discussion about how to protect the electoral process from outside agencies in the light of social media interference some twenty sixteen the elephant not in the room though is facebook founder mark zuckerberg he and...
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cambridge analytic of the company at the center of a media storm who's accused of using massive amounts of stolen facebook users data to influence elections around the world but what about its parent company c l a british behavioral research and strategic communications firm. we use the same techniques as aristotle and hitler we appeal to people on an emotional level to get them to agree on a functional level if you take a look at the key figures that s.c.l. you can't miss the connections between the company's board and britain's political military and even royal establishment first there's their c.e.o. nigel oakes. ochs comes from a military family and is one of the company's founders he made headlines back in the eighty's during his reported courtship of lady helen windsor the daughter of one of the queen's cousins he once said this about his work before his time at s.c.l. there's lord ivor mountbatten. a direct descendant of queen victoria third cousin of queen elizabeth the second and a member of a sales advisory board according to bloomberg we
cambridge analytic of the company at the center of a media storm who's accused of using massive amounts of stolen facebook users data to influence elections around the world but what about its parent company c l a british behavioral research and strategic communications firm. we use the same techniques as aristotle and hitler we appeal to people on an emotional level to get them to agree on a functional level if you take a look at the key figures that s.c.l. you can't miss the connections...
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manipulation dealers in deceit the boast of one man called on camera the shadow of political consultancy cambridge analytic suspended c.e.o. alexander nix after undercover reporters filmed him boasting about using dirty tricks to swing elections the company already faces accusations of data abuse gleaned illegally from facebook also coming up tens of thousands of syrians fleeing eastern ghouta as resistance to the government crumbles the un saying tonight it is deeply concerned about the fate of civilians there and elsewhere in the country and somebody has to be responsible somebody has to be accountable and we in the u.k. think that the. evidence points the evidence or culpability points to the russian state boris johnson tells g w news who's behind the poisoning of a former spy that as the u.k. to expose russian diplomats and a sad day for conservationists the world's last male northern white rhino dies in kenya only two females remain go away asked hope against the species extinction. i bring golf it's good to have you with us there trick they said was making their work not look like propaganda now thou
manipulation dealers in deceit the boast of one man called on camera the shadow of political consultancy cambridge analytic suspended c.e.o. alexander nix after undercover reporters filmed him boasting about using dirty tricks to swing elections the company already faces accusations of data abuse gleaned illegally from facebook also coming up tens of thousands of syrians fleeing eastern ghouta as resistance to the government crumbles the un saying tonight it is deeply concerned about the fate...
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media exposed the actions of cambridge. analytic or the firm accused of improperly access and use information to manipulate us voters in a post on facebook because i have admitted his company made mistakes and if the data protection he's promising an investigation into apps on the platform after a quick is allowed cambridge analytical access to information on millions of profiles that's despite only three hundred thousand users responding to the quiz the quest gave cambridge analytical access to respondents friends as well and because of this facebook maintained that there was no data breach as permission was given by the original users zuckerberg says terms of service have since changed and mike hanna has more from washington d.c. . and here in a hearing on election security by the senate intelligence committee johnson discussion about how to protect the electoral process from outside agencies in the light of social media interference and twenty sixteen the elephant not in the room though is facebook founder mark zuckerberg he and
media exposed the actions of cambridge. analytic or the firm accused of improperly access and use information to manipulate us voters in a post on facebook because i have admitted his company made mistakes and if the data protection he's promising an investigation into apps on the platform after a quick is allowed cambridge analytical access to information on millions of profiles that's despite only three hundred thousand users responding to the quiz the quest gave cambridge analytical access...
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warrant for the company accused of misusing information it gathered from millions of facebook users cambridge analytic a is a political consultancy based in london but own by a u.a.e. company it's accused of gaining unauthorized access to the data of fifty million facebook users the company worked for donald trump's presidential campaign and the brazen campaign in the u.k. it's also been tied to a social media campaign to discredit carter in the ongoing gulf crisis journalists have secretly recorded executives boasting about their ability to sway elections news of the scandal wide nearly forty billion dollars off the value of facebook shares on monday at around one hundred points. many of us provide information online perhaps with a little thought about how it might be used and who it might end up with the scandal involving facebook might make many of us reconsider. cambridge analytic is accused of misusing the data of millions of facebook uses a whistleblower who worked at the british based data mining firm says the information was used to build a system which may have influenced voters in the us pre
warrant for the company accused of misusing information it gathered from millions of facebook users cambridge analytic a is a political consultancy based in london but own by a u.a.e. company it's accused of gaining unauthorized access to the data of fifty million facebook users the company worked for donald trump's presidential campaign and the brazen campaign in the u.k. it's also been tied to a social media campaign to discredit carter in the ongoing gulf crisis journalists have secretly...
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of cambridge analytical alexander next on this after he was caught on camera claiming to have swung to kenya as a presidential election cambridge aleko is at the very heart of the facebook data abuse scandal. allocca phone thank you so much for spending the best part of your day with this a great guy is up next. i'm going to. come up. with some junk and instructions for the book. of fourteen william come come. the boy from malawi wanted to build a wind turbine to provide his village with electricity this idea challenges a. quick and exciting journey around the world we can. hear a story william and the middle east and. so this is the view from my seat in the horn section. sarah willis knows her stuff. thinks this could be the missing. and conductor. and she shows just how diverse classical music can be in. sarah's music contemporary classical. d.w. . they make a commitment. they find solutions. they conspire. africa come up. stories from both people making a difference shaping their nation. and the continent of africa on the move the stories about motivational change makers taking thei
of cambridge analytical alexander next on this after he was caught on camera claiming to have swung to kenya as a presidential election cambridge aleko is at the very heart of the facebook data abuse scandal. allocca phone thank you so much for spending the best part of your day with this a great guy is up next. i'm going to. come up. with some junk and instructions for the book. of fourteen william come come. the boy from malawi wanted to build a wind turbine to provide his village with...
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analytical moreover. the guardian newspaper who done lots of digging on this story had made it clear that cambridge analytical has threatened to sue them in the recent past to try to a high heat some of what the guardian were threatening to publish and some people at facebook itself have admitted that they knew in twenty fifteen about this. if you like breach and in the last two and a half years perhaps have done very little to actually alert anybody about it so there are lots of questions being pointed still at facebook and at the same time there are financial groups which are threatening to sue. sever their time with facebook including investment funds in germany and also a group of advertisers in britain who invest hundreds of millions of dollars every year into facebook saying if it emerges that uses data was passed on to brokers or political campaigns then they would cut links where there seemed to be very strong suggestions that it that that is what happened adrian all right so that's facebook let's talk about cambridge analytical britain's information commissioner wants to to look into to the company w
analytical moreover. the guardian newspaper who done lots of digging on this story had made it clear that cambridge analytical has threatened to sue them in the recent past to try to a high heat some of what the guardian were threatening to publish and some people at facebook itself have admitted that they knew in twenty fifteen about this. if you like breach and in the last two and a half years perhaps have done very little to actually alert anybody about it so there are lots of questions...
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at the time and why aware only finding out now another thing he did he kind of threw cambridge analytic of this data services firm at the center of the controversy under the boss by positioning facebook as having been as deceived as we were when really it was facebook's inadequate is regulation . and some safeguards are now dotted that's why we're in this position we are now he hasn't fully explained yet how facebook can protect us from being manipulated politically because we know generally facebook has a bit of a problem where you see things like russian propaganda around election time he did say in another interview that during the special election in alabama last year they did deploy artificial intelligence to try and sort of prohibit or get rid of this propaganda but we'd like to know a bit more about the one thing he did talk about he's going to limit develop his access to facebook and our information so this is tightening of the rules that they've brought into force in twenty four teams of course but only finding out that they did this now he said he'd be willing to testify before c
at the time and why aware only finding out now another thing he did he kind of threw cambridge analytic of this data services firm at the center of the controversy under the boss by positioning facebook as having been as deceived as we were when really it was facebook's inadequate is regulation . and some safeguards are now dotted that's why we're in this position we are now he hasn't fully explained yet how facebook can protect us from being manipulated politically because we know generally...
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didn't say anything and when they did say something they kind of blamed it on cambridge analytical asif they had been buffaloed by cambridge and living in fool and it's so obvious that this breach which took place two years ago. all facebook did was send them a letter saying oh please delete the information on fifty million of our users that you have in your files and of course cambridge and luke ignore that the cambridge analytic of whistleblower mr wiley he spoke to british parliamentarians today and i'm quoting him here he said i don't think that military style information operations is conducive to any democratic process i mean military style information operations is that the reality of the threat that we are facing you know if you're able to do deep cycle route through profiles of you know two billion people and be able to target them with exact kind of. information warfare or threat you know they will respond to at the exact moment that you know that they are riled up i don't see how you could call it anything else but information warfare. right mr to happen of course we're out
didn't say anything and when they did say something they kind of blamed it on cambridge analytical asif they had been buffaloed by cambridge and living in fool and it's so obvious that this breach which took place two years ago. all facebook did was send them a letter saying oh please delete the information on fifty million of our users that you have in your files and of course cambridge and luke ignore that the cambridge analytic of whistleblower mr wiley he spoke to british parliamentarians...
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low profile more than two years ago his company discovered that cambridge analytical was using a data link to spy on fifty million of facebook's uses but facebook failed to inform those affected cambridge analytical was simply told to delete the data which according to media reports never happened instead facebook has opted to delete the accounts of those who brought the scandal to light people like chris wiley former research director at cambridge analytics he's described how the company was. imagine i going to ask you i say hey if i give you a dollar two dollars could you fill out the survey for me just do it on this app
low profile more than two years ago his company discovered that cambridge analytical was using a data link to spy on fifty million of facebook's uses but facebook failed to inform those affected cambridge analytical was simply told to delete the data which according to media reports never happened instead facebook has opted to delete the accounts of those who brought the scandal to light people like chris wiley former research director at cambridge analytics he's described how the company was....
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a defense ministry has been caught up in the scandal surrounding cambridge analytic of the firm. the personal data of millions of facebook users and exploited it for political goals. explains. cambridge on a ticket is seemingly everywhere apart from helping the campaign to victory by using information harvested from millions of facebook profiles it turns out the company's services have been used by the british government to cambridge on the parent company is called the f c l group the whistleblower who on earth the facebook data breach calls the two entities as c.e.o. and cambridge on the one in the say s c l used to be on the payroll of the british defense ministry thanks to a freedom of information request from twenty six we know that in two thousand and eleven the energy paid to s.c.l. for the provision of external training and in twenty fifteen it paid us for psychosocial research to top it all off s.c.l. got the green light to hold british government secrets on its premise this britain's information commissioner's already investigating cambridge analytic over the facebook dat
a defense ministry has been caught up in the scandal surrounding cambridge analytic of the firm. the personal data of millions of facebook users and exploited it for political goals. explains. cambridge on a ticket is seemingly everywhere apart from helping the campaign to victory by using information harvested from millions of facebook profiles it turns out the company's services have been used by the british government to cambridge on the parent company is called the f c l group the...
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low profile more than two years ago his company discovered that cambridge analytical was using a data leak to spy on fifty million of facebook's uses but facebook failed to inform those affected cambridge analytical was simply told to delete the data which according to media reports never happened instead facebook has opted to delete the accounts of those who brought the scandal to light people like chris wiley former research director at cambridge analytical as part of an investigation by channel four news in the u.k. he described how the company worked a magic when i go and ask you i say hey if i give you a dollar two dollars could you fill out the survey for me just do it on the up and you say fine right i don't just capture what your responses are i capture all the information about you from facebook but also this app can crawl through your social network and captures all about data also so by you filling out my survey i capture three hundred records the users facebook friends were spied on without their consent of course their likes their gender their sexual orientation and political leanings everything was gat
low profile more than two years ago his company discovered that cambridge analytical was using a data leak to spy on fifty million of facebook's uses but facebook failed to inform those affected cambridge analytical was simply told to delete the data which according to media reports never happened instead facebook has opted to delete the accounts of those who brought the scandal to light people like chris wiley former research director at cambridge analytical as part of an investigation by...
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congress on wednesday over a scandal involving the data breach of millions of its users cambridge analytic political consultancy based in london is accused of gaining unauthorized access to the details of fifty million facebook uses the firm works for donald trump's presidential campaign and the bricks it campaign in the u.k. its chief executive has been suspended he's been secretly recorded boasting about the firm's ability to sway elections news of the scandal hit facebook shares the company's stock fell two and a half percent on tuesday that followed an almost seven percent drop on monday sixty billion dollars has been wife top how wiped off the company's value over the last two days ago reports from london. a virtual world with a very real money making data trail uses of social media platforms unaware how profitable the information they have is for those willing to access it the scandal involving facebook may make many of us reconsider that. cambridge a little is accused of misusing the data of millions of facebook users we've had quite a few with a whistleblower who worked for the bri
congress on wednesday over a scandal involving the data breach of millions of its users cambridge analytic political consultancy based in london is accused of gaining unauthorized access to the details of fifty million facebook uses the firm works for donald trump's presidential campaign and the bricks it campaign in the u.k. its chief executive has been suspended he's been secretly recorded boasting about the firm's ability to sway elections news of the scandal hit facebook shares the...
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and europe to answer questions over a major data breach the company at the center of it all cambridge analytical is accused of gaining an authorized access to fifty million facebook users cambridge analytic it is political consultancy based in london but morality and it's worked on political campaigns in the u.s. u.k. kenya on social media campaigns to discredit cattle in the gulf crisis its chief executive alexander nix has been suspended he's been secretly recorded boasting about the company's ability to sway elections investigations have been opened into facebook and cambridge and a little in the u.s. and the u.k. and facebook representatives are expected to brief u.s. senate and white house aides on wednesday so we're going to go reports. a virtual world with a very real money making data trail users of social media platforms unaware how profitable the information they have is for those willing to access it the scandal involving facebook may make many of us reconsider that. cambridge analytic is accused of misusing the data of millions of facebook users we've had quite a few with a whistlebl
and europe to answer questions over a major data breach the company at the center of it all cambridge analytical is accused of gaining an authorized access to fifty million facebook users cambridge analytic it is political consultancy based in london but morality and it's worked on political campaigns in the u.s. u.k. kenya on social media campaigns to discredit cattle in the gulf crisis its chief executive alexander nix has been suspended he's been secretly recorded boasting about the...
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then sold to a third party cambridge analytic are in violation of facebook's own policies but cambridge analytic denies doing anything wrong and says it deleted all records when it discovered how the data had been attained from facebook not only is britain's data protection watchdog after proof that data was wiped facebook says it wants that proof to the social media giant has since hired a digital forensics to find out how the data was leaked and assurances that it was destroyed but its response may have come too late facebook share price fell almost seven percent wiping nearly forty billion dollars of its value the company's chief of security alex thomas is reportedly to leave because of internal disagreements of how facebook should deal with its role in spreading disinformation politicians in britain and the us are now pushing for facebook's chief executive mark zuckerberg to appear before them to answer questions over the massive data breach meanwhile the accusations against cambridge analytic are rapidly growing since. an undercover investigation by britain's channel four secretly
then sold to a third party cambridge analytic are in violation of facebook's own policies but cambridge analytic denies doing anything wrong and says it deleted all records when it discovered how the data had been attained from facebook not only is britain's data protection watchdog after proof that data was wiped facebook says it wants that proof to the social media giant has since hired a digital forensics to find out how the data was leaked and assurances that it was destroyed but its...
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arms being sold to riyadh the chief executive of political consultancy cambridge analytical has been suspended after recordings were released of him boasting about the firm's ability to sway elections the london based companies accused of gaining unauthorized access to the details of fifty million facebook users and more than sixty civilians have been killed in the last remaining rebel held parts of eastern ghouta after a touch by the syrian military and its allies thirty five others have also died after a rocket fired by rebels landed in market in government controls damascus. now there's been a six explosion in the u.s. state of texas it happened at a charity store in the city of austin but police say it does not appear to be related to a series of bombings in the state this month early on tuesday a package bomb filled with nails and shop now exploded at a fed ex distribution center two people have been killed in five separate attacks this was not an explosive device. this incident is not related to any of the other incidents that we've had here in austin this was a old military typ
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and with the involvement of conservative steve benen but its operations extend well beyond america cambridge analytic is executives have reportedly boasted of targeting will than two hundred elections around the world including in kenya nigeria india the czech republic and tina the firm was in kenya just after it opened its job there was to help her opinion at the time facing charges of crimes against humanity he went on to be elected president cambridge analytical is accused of stoking it's nick tensions and demonizing kenya his opponent. its parent company is c.e.o. worked in the caribbean from at least two thousand and ten one of the accusations is that it targeted lindsay grant an opposition leader on the island of st kitts and nevis by sitting him up and filming him in a shady deal and why do you distributing the video online and the gulf crisis cambridge generalistic a has been linked to a social media campaign to discredit qatar and in the u.k. it worked for the levy you campaign during the brics it reframed i'm british police are asking questions and the need is widening with investigations a
and with the involvement of conservative steve benen but its operations extend well beyond america cambridge analytic is executives have reportedly boasted of targeting will than two hundred elections around the world including in kenya nigeria india the czech republic and tina the firm was in kenya just after it opened its job there was to help her opinion at the time facing charges of crimes against humanity he went on to be elected president cambridge analytical is accused of stoking it's...
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of the u.k.'s c l's and cambridge analytic his client list reads like a who's who of contentious elections and political hot spots cambridge analytical was hired by kenya's ruling party ahead of its elections last year the company is accused of stoking ethnic tensions and manipulating voters online prejudices to help kenya's leaders stay in power the company's also accused of orchestrating political. ration zone their client's political rivals and circulating the evidence online among a seal's clients was ukraine it was hired by the kiev government to help recapture the self-proclaimed republic of donetsk. yes seal was contracted to deliver a data driven strategy for the ukrainian government in pursuit of their goal to win back control of donetsk our findings replied to designed localized communications campaigns to erode and weaken the jeannette's people's republic this particular campaign didn't bear much fruit for the ukrainian government the website reveals yet another tie to the british government the ukraine report it says was delivered to kiev and shared with the u.k.'s ministry of defense i don'
of the u.k.'s c l's and cambridge analytic his client list reads like a who's who of contentious elections and political hot spots cambridge analytical was hired by kenya's ruling party ahead of its elections last year the company is accused of stoking ethnic tensions and manipulating voters online prejudices to help kenya's leaders stay in power the company's also accused of orchestrating political. ration zone their client's political rivals and circulating the evidence online among a seal's...
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news live from berlin masters of manipulation now mired in scandal political consultancy cambridge analytical suspends its c.e.o. after undercover reporters filmed him boasting about using dirty tricks to screen elections and facebook is also under fire over imports a consultancy illegally harvested millions of users to. also coming out near mars first civilian president resigned coaching job was largely a proxy for de facto leader aung san suu kyi will ask what his departure means for the country. plus as part of our coverage of the un's international day against racism we take you to a paris suburb to meet the activists fighting back against systemic racism. i'm sumi so much going to thank you for joining us a british academic who created the app that harvested data on millions of facebook users says he is being used as a scapegoat by both the social network and the political consultancy behind the data grap facebook says alexandre kogan violated its policies by passing the data to cambridge analytic or the u.k. based firm is now in hot water after its c.e.o. was filmed by undercover report
news live from berlin masters of manipulation now mired in scandal political consultancy cambridge analytical suspends its c.e.o. after undercover reporters filmed him boasting about using dirty tricks to screen elections and facebook is also under fire over imports a consultancy illegally harvested millions of users to. also coming out near mars first civilian president resigned coaching job was largely a proxy for de facto leader aung san suu kyi will ask what his departure means for the...
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more digitally savvy more discerning about what kind of information we post about ourselves online it is surprising that it took the cambridge analytical situation to really make use of the where we've had these problems around privacy and third party apps harvesting user data for many years many users will think back about the farm will times or other third party apps that do personality tests and so forth these apps are always systematically harvested personal data and this is not as your own data but also the data of your friends so i think. we're seeing this outrage right now because suddenly all these state or harvesting practices that are commonplace in the industry are connected to political outcomes to a controversial figure to a controversial election in the us and even to the breadth of campaign so it is the conflation of data harvesting and the political implications which actually facilitate this wake up call but honestly people should have woken up much earlier than this so this is threaten facebook's whole business model then because the argument is that it is predicated on people giving up their data facebook wasn't abus
more digitally savvy more discerning about what kind of information we post about ourselves online it is surprising that it took the cambridge analytical situation to really make use of the where we've had these problems around privacy and third party apps harvesting user data for many years many users will think back about the farm will times or other third party apps that do personality tests and so forth these apps are always systematically harvested personal data and this is not as your own...
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of cambridge analytical alexander nix was suspended on tuesday facebook c.e.o. mark zuckerberg was noticeably absent and silent until yesterday that's when he posted a statement emitting two mistakes and promising to make sure this kind of data abuse never happens again however zuckerberg did not address the claims that user data was used to engineer the outcome of the twenty six thousand us presidential election he said nothing about the possible role of russia in the misuse of that data and manipulation of an american election now these are claims if true that could end a presidency mr zuckerberg apparently doesn't consider them as great a threat to his own company. it began with an innocent personality quiz and ended up with a fifty million facebook profiles being used to sway elections. now the question is why didn't facebook do more to protect its uses. facebook's founder mark zuckerberg broke days of silence on the scandal admitting the company had made mistakes. i started facebook and at the end of the day i'm responsible for what happens on our platform w
of cambridge analytical alexander nix was suspended on tuesday facebook c.e.o. mark zuckerberg was noticeably absent and silent until yesterday that's when he posted a statement emitting two mistakes and promising to make sure this kind of data abuse never happens again however zuckerberg did not address the claims that user data was used to engineer the outcome of the twenty six thousand us presidential election he said nothing about the possible role of russia in the misuse of that data and...
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while essential claims of the campaign group to leave the european union hired an offshoot of cambridge analytical the data mining company accused of harvesting personal details of millions of people through facebook and manipulating opinions in an attempt to put on trump in the white house the company he said had subverted elections for its own aims in countries including nigeria and trinidad now it was doing the same in the u.k. the company will send out billions of people being murdered to intimidate voters this is the company that goes out and tries to illicitly acquire you know live internet browsing data of everyone in an entire country so i think a lot of questions should be asked about the role of patriotic here in this election and whether they were indeed actually complying with the law here to answer they said had already been claimed to leave campaign broke u.k. election law by using campaign funds on lawfully allegations the leave camp denies but in an emergency debate in parliament m.p.'s hostile to bricks it's have begun to demand the referendum results be declared null and void inh
while essential claims of the campaign group to leave the european union hired an offshoot of cambridge analytical the data mining company accused of harvesting personal details of millions of people through facebook and manipulating opinions in an attempt to put on trump in the white house the company he said had subverted elections for its own aims in countries including nigeria and trinidad now it was doing the same in the u.k. the company will send out billions of people being murdered to...
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said in response to that data scandal involving his company and the data mining firm cambridge analytic of his statement on his facebook profile zuckerberg apologized yesterday and he promised users a new feature to turn off those third party apps now those apps which cambridge analytical allegedly used to harvest private information. it began with an innocent personality quiz and ended up with a fifty million facebook profiles being used to sway elections. now the question is why didn't facebook do more to protect its uses. the scientist behind the quiz says he is a scapegoat. did you know what they were going to do with it did you know what their interest was no i mean that's the thing i was pretty heavily siloed of anything as far as funder or clients i found out about donald trump just like everybody else they're going to give people more options than just facebook founder mark zuckerberg broke days of silence on the scandal admitting the company had made mistakes. i started facebook and at the end of the day i'm responsible for what happens on our platform we will learn from this expe
said in response to that data scandal involving his company and the data mining firm cambridge analytic of his statement on his facebook profile zuckerberg apologized yesterday and he promised users a new feature to turn off those third party apps now those apps which cambridge analytical allegedly used to harvest private information. it began with an innocent personality quiz and ended up with a fifty million facebook profiles being used to sway elections. now the question is why didn't...