host: we are joined by anand parekh. he served as the deputy secretary under george w. bush and the obama administration. i want to talk about the state of this pandemic. most americans think covid is no longer a crisis. guest: i would describe the state of the pandemic with cautious optimism. on one hand, we are seeing hospitalizations and deaths at the lowest level since last summer. that is very good news. on the other hand, we are seeing hyper transmissible variance, subvariants of a very growth the country. what we are looking for is, will those cases translate into hospitalizations? we've seen an uptick in the over 70 population, but we have been well below immunity as well as omicron. that is the central question, and of course, we continue to be worried about other variance, that may escape vaccines. we still have suboptimal rates of vaccination throughout the world, including the united states. copter sauce -- cautious optimism is a bit of a myth. we need to stick to the fundamentals. make sure we are up-to-date with our vaccinations, make sure you test liberal