and formal i am joined now by dr anant on a researcher in by effects and global health policy in bhopal india good to have you on the program dr just last month the health minister say that india was in the quote end game of the pandemic today the countries he global records and infections what's gone wrong in your view you recently tweeted that new variants and mutations were not the cause. not thank you for having me so when i did not put in that read what i meant was that of course media intimidations could be a driver in many ways but one has to recognise a fundamental reason we might be seeing an increase is that perhaps. this virus has taught us notably. you know there's always that on to produce items and infections and we need to be extra cautious and ensure that the appalling public and precaution conduct sometimes i was not being your dared to in the moment messaging was probably getting a lark honestly makers were not taking this too seriously so there were mosques congregations happening looking around is happening and just and i could put it into you know on the corner of m