. >> yeah, anchorfree is an application, hot spot shield is, used all over the world, to protect people's privacy. matter of fact, about 200 million people around the world have downloaded hot spot shield across mobile devices and computers. i think that people are realizing that their digital lives are really insecure and really need to be private. but, the internet and mobile technologies are so new, that a lot of people haven't yet figured out what this all means. so i actually think, that yes, a lot of people still don't understand that privacy is important. i think we are at the beginning of a really big privacy revolution where people will understand the future of their digital lives need to be protected. >> right. then there is, the shopping part of all of this. millions of customers affected by target, neiman marcus, brechtz, exposed your personal information. credit, debit card numbers. connection between the retailers and banks. is it so interconnected there need to be more oversight in the country? >> i think it needs oversight. you are talking nsa or anything else. all of thes