>> well, anderson, aides say they're still short.re are six or seven members that remain undecided, but they haven't come out as explicit nos and we've seen over the course of the last seven or eight days that members through every iteration of this senate process have essentially killed that process. they haven't done that yet. and because of that, there is at least some shred of optimism. but it's important to note what's going on behind the scenes. you've seen an all-out blilts publicly. you had vice president mike pence in ohio with senator rob portman, who is a holdout. you had the president tonight in west virginia with shelly moore capito who's a holdout. there are offers on the table i'm told by administration officials for things that holdouts could get behind the scenes. there are amendments that senate leaders are saying could be made in order for other senators. so there's an all-out blitz right now to try and close the deal on this. but the kind of crazy reality is, anderson, as we go -- we're now fewer than 24 hours fro

anderson resigned saying that the school board is dysfunctional.is one of four appointed school board members and the only one who didn't take a public position after those other four board mem widespread fraud and grade fixing to boost graduation rates. the other nine members of the board called the claims appalling. now, in her resignation letter dr. anderson said she's a strong supporter of county executive rushern baker but now she says there's no coherent educational plan, no thoughtful budget to support the needs of low performing students and not enough independence for the board to make decisions. dr. anderson writes further that the board is dysfunctional because in her opinion too many members are compromised or have conflicts of interest. county executive baker thnked dr. anderson saying there's no doubt that the school system has improved as a result of her work. as far as the investigation, the maryland state department of education investigation into those allegations goes, we can tell you that just this week the offer was put out for

out on the streets, anderson was known to steal as well. forgery. she's also struggled with a met addiction all of which have led to multiple incarcerations. >> i'm comfortable more locked up than i am out there and that's sad, you know? especially because i'm a very proactive person. like, i can do something with myself, i have a lot of potential. i'm not dumb, you know? i might get overwhelmed and i feel alone. and i have a hard time accepting help. i guess some of that's due to me being in prison a lot too because you don't ask for help, you don't accept things from other people. you just do you, you know? it's a waste of life. it's a waste of my life and my kids'. >> though she lost her spot in the culinary program, anderson will be able to participate in other re-entry programs designed to provide her with both the skills and mindset to not commit further crimes. she says her goal is to become a personal trainer. >> anybody that was supposed to work out here is amazing i feel because i feel it's good for your mind, help you sleep. >> i

-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> i'm anderson cooper. this is cnn special coverage of a major development in the investigation of whether the trump campaign colluded with the russians. donald trump jr. has released an e-mail chain detailing the plan for his secret meeting he had with the russian lawyer last summer during the campaign. a meeting that clearly was set up with the intent of getting incriminating evidence against hillary clinton from the russians. the meeting that we're told the fbi did not know about until now. the first e-mail from rob gold stone, a confidant of the trump family, sent june 3, 2016, reads in part, the crown prosecutor russia met with his father this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate hillary and her dealings with russia and would be very useful to your dealing with your father. this is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of russia and its government support for mr. trump. i can also

>> yes, anderson. i also serve on the house judiciary committee. i think he should come before our committee. we should be able to have access to all of the evidence so that we can again confront him with it to see just what is the truth. but also, anderson, this is the pattern we've seen in this investigation, which has put more into focus the ties the trump team has had, which is they deny ever having contacts with russia. only when confronted and oftentimes because of dogged media reporting do they acknowledge it, and now we've gotten to the point where the president is essentially saying so what. the alternative would have been hillary. he is putting that out there now. so i think we have to tell the country that the so what is that our democracy has been undermined by a foreign adversary and we have to do everything now as leaders in congress to never put our country in a position like this again. >> i want to get the panel's take. i'm joined by evan perez. you've been covering the justice department, what do you make of this reporting by "the

>> his behavior, anderson, was a big part of what they took into consideration. there are 11 factors the parole board in nevada looks at. age, employment at the time that the sneincident occurred. substance abuse including use of alcohol. severity of the crime that was committed. family support. a stable plan. once you're released. all of those factors. of course, your conduct during your imprisonment. and i also made the point earlier today that you can't really talk about o.j. simpson without talking about the issues of race, class and justice. everyone talks about him relitigating the facts. in many ways we're relitigating the 1994 trial that occurred in los angeles. i don't condone the conduct, listening to those domestic violence tapes were chilling to me. but the reality is, that was over 4 24 years ago and to say that the prison -- the parole board should have considered that case, that audiotape of nicole brown, reporting that domestic violence, making this determination, to me is the height of hypocrisy. >> right. i don't know that anybody is saying shsa

anderson, you're right. year and the year before, i was absolutely fixated on hillary clinton's decision to have a private server, an unsecured server where she stowed government records that belonged to us and she -- what she did was deliberate and i think illegal. everyone kept telling me, no one cares about e-mails, no one cares about e-mails. i would say what happens if the fbi finds the 33,000 deleted e-mails? then your candidate is sunk. literally in the middle of the campaign. then you'll care about e-mails. these investigations are real. they're happening for a reason. there is a lot of smoke. there was a letter saying the russian government was trying to help trump sr. they're going to pursue this stuff because there are actual concerns about real something, whether it's financial crimes or even if they were just duped into colluding. we won't know until the end. people -- the media covers health care all the time. what dana was saying, all we do is cover health care and the fact republicans can't p

however, anderson, that could be about to change. senator mark warner, the vice chairman of the intelligence committee, told cnn and other reporters not long ago this evening, that he absolutely wants to hear from the president's son. they plan to call him before the committee to ask them questions specifically about that meeting in june of 2016. but he has hired a lawyer. and for donald trump jr.'s part, he said i'm happy to work with congress on that. anderson, that is a change of tone from earlier in the day when he sent out a flippant rock saying surely i'm not the only operative to discuss some opposition research with an opponent. the difference, it was a russian lawyer, not simply a rival. >> what did the white house say at the briefing today about all this? >> reporter: anderson, simply that there's nothing to see here. sarah huckabee sanders was giving the press briefing. it was off camera, again as has become the practice here. she said the president did not know about this until the last couple of days. he was not aware of

anderson? >> pam, thanks. it's easy to forget that the investigation or not, lawmakers are also considering legislation that affects 1 one-sixth of the economy. let's go back to ryan nobles. the health care debate rages on. what's the latest? >> well, we have a new bill in place, anderson, and it's really not dramatically different than the bill senators initially revealed but it is a 172-page bill so these are just the top lines but let's go through some of them. it includes an option for people to buy cheaper plans that also have fewer benefits. these catastrophic plans, as they are called. it would also allow americans to use their health savings accounts to pay their premiums without a tax penalty. there's $45 billion substance abuse opioid treatment set aside and maintains the deep cuts to medicaid that the original bill had in place but moderates are happy with the fact that they took out a plan to repeal the obama investment tax. there are tax breaks in this bill but that was the most significant one. a

>> i do, anderson. i think ian's made it very clear. my sense is that a conversation that long is probably half interpretation time, and half statements on each side. that's still a half hour. a half hour sa long time in international conversation. and talking about critical subjects can consume a half an hour very easily. and i think we're now seeing some of the results of that. i understand that the syrian rebels are no longer going to be supported by the united states. one wonders where that came from, and how it fit in either to that context or perhaps other things that one way or another are part of the u.s.-russian dialogue. i think it's important not to in fact let the messenger here be the problem so much as understanding that it is important for putin and trump to talk. whether ally jealousies, i think it was unwise to do all this in front of allies, with all the comparisons. but ally jealousies aside on this kind of thing, the u.s. and russia have been in a deep hole. if putin and trump can dig us out in a serious way, fine. b

>> i do not believe that, anderson. we've had transgender people who have served in tens of thousands have served over the course of our military's history. i don't know why the president is doing this. if anything, what he's doing is disruptive to unit cohesion. >> is this about politics or just appealing to his base? >> i would think this is about appealing to his base, it's not about military readiness. and the facts and figures he quotes are blatantly wrong. he says it's going to be too expensive when the cost estimate for the health care of transgender people is around in 2015, 2016, $5.6 million. the pentagon spent $41 million on viagra in that same time period. so there are other places that you can cut if you want to talk about cost. >> white house has no answer to the question what's going to happen to transgender members currently serving. does that make sense to you? i would think that would have been something that was figured out before announcing this. >> well, isn't this typical of this administration, an

>> well, anderson, there wasn't much response today. you say, sarah huckabee sanders, the white house press secretary sean spicer was not at the briefing today. sara did the briefing today off camera. and she only essentially had that statement that brief statement from the president on his son about all of this. however, we should point out there were a couple other follow-up questions during the briefing. by and large she tried to deflect the questions saying you have to talk to donald trump jr.'s attorney about all of this. she did say in response to one question about well, you know, there are people up on capitol hill talking about perjury and even using the word treason. sara huckabee sanders said the use of those words would be "ridiculous." we should point out for the third straight day tomorrow, the president will not have any public events on his schedule. that was the case today. he was behind closed doors, did not talk in front of cameras today. that was the case yesterday. that's going to be the case also tomorrow. the only

>> anderson, there was no indication of that at all. throughout the day, you know, supporters and close allies of the chief of staff were saying that there is nothing to these mores. he's going to remain as chief of staff and there are reasons to believe that reince priebus thought that. he had not informed any allies, he did not tell speaker paul ryan, anyone that this was on the verge of happening. so there is a sense of the moment that this was revealed about 5:00 or so, when the president announced this, suddenly then some allies of reince priebus who were telling us all day long nothing is happening, oh, he resigned last night. i've talked to several officials who are skeptical of that version of events. they believe that reince priebus was trying to hold on and trying to remain in this position. they thought he could weather this storm, but that was not to be. and now as they look back at it, they believe some of reince priebus's allies that anthony scaramucci was brought in to be sort of a hit man to put all of this in public, an

now, he's likely to get that chance, anderson. senator warner and other senators say they do want to hear from him so he could be talking to members of congress as well as to the special counsel at the justice department. now, all of this is coming as the white house is trying to downplay any of this. they said the president did not know that any of this happened until this weekend. but sarah huckabee sanders at that briefing today, anderson, also could not say if there were any other meetings involved that would come up in the course of this investigation. that is the question here. but later this week, the senate intelligence committee is going to start its inquiry, its interviews with trump campaign officials. that is sure to bring up even more information about what happened or what didn't happen over the last year. >> jeff, thanks very much. appreciate it. >>> earlier this evening, i spoke with someone who's obviously very interested in the trump jr. revelation. representative eric swalwell. congressman swalwell, this meeting

>> it is possible, anderson. they have a theory that if we just lie that we'll get so confused, the public will be so confused, these stories get really down in the weeds about who is who and the public can't follow it and if they can maintain their base, they think they can get through it. i think it is a mistaken theory. i think there is a direct line from the kind of lying they have been doing, to the drop in his percentage polls to his difficulty in persuading senators to sign up for the health care bill. the perception is you are a weak president in the country, it is much, much harder to ask senators to take hard votes. >> jeff, is it? do you agree that sean spicer just said something which is factually not true? >> i will say this. i do think when you are getting your message out, whatever it is, it should be clear and crystal and out there from a to z and everybody should be on the right page. >> one thing the president tweeted something completely different. >> i have been a press secretary. this can hap

anderson. >> gary tuckman.>> next, the panel's take on whether the attorney general will resign. the loyalty question. sessions was the first senator to support the president. president trump says loyalty is important. why the disconnect now? "the wall street journal" reporter who asked the president about that joins me as well. booking a flight at the last minute doesn't have to be expensive. just go to priceline. it's the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40%. just tap and go. and while i'm gone i can even check on my baby with this doggie cam. oh jack, you're such a good boy. no, jack, what are you doing? bad dog! and if you need to get back home, like right now, priceline has you covered. time's up, insufficient we're on prenatal care.es. and administrative paperwork... your days of drowning people are numbered. same goes for you, budget overruns. and rising costs, wipe that smile off your face. we're coming for you, too. for those who won't rest until the world is h

he clearly wants the job, anderson. i think he's going to put up a good fight before he walks away. >> adam, i know you may not be able to know this, but is this information that the president of the united states would already have known based on his access to intelligence? or because it's part of the russian investigation? >> i don't know the answer to that. i would be surprised if that -- if this information is -- it wouldn't be widely shared. again, i think as president, i'm sure he could have access to this. but i'm not sure how far it's distributed and to whom. >> carl? >> let me say two things. one, the president can ask for this intelligence and it would not surprise me if he did. particularly if he's intent on getting rid of sessions. but the real thing, and i've been talking to people around the white house that he's intent on is getting rid of mueller. that is his objective. he wants mueller out. he's doing everything he can to undermine him. he would like to fire him. and there is a possibility that this dis

a lot of the men are fighting anderson. they are decorating their bridles and saddles with scouts, anderson's men's scalps as well. it's not the side of good against harkness as much as i think slavery is bad -- in missouri, both sides are very ruthless. i have to think it is because it is a war of the population against the population that is right next door. another quick question. >> i have done some research being involved with the battle of westport. somebody brought up truman. it turns out that truman had two ancestors in the confederate army. one, his uncle was involved in some of these activities. apparently when his mother came to visit in the white house, she refused to sleep in the lincoln bedroom. [laughter] mr. stiles: yeah, i believe it. and yet, who desegregated the u.s. military? it was truman. by the way, missouri today -- i should mention that bank they robbed owned by union militiamen, it existed before the civil war. it was one of those banks that was owned by leading secessionists who cut aid check cutt

the process will continue but there's no question about it, anderson.t was not easy to get here and probably won't be easy to get it done either. >> where do things stand as far as passing some version of the health care bill. >> it's extremely complicated. right now they're in the process of debating and about to vote on the first amendment. take a look what mitch mcconnell said today kind of underscoring the difficulty they face going forward. >> it's an open amendment process. this is just the beginning. we're not out here to spike the football. this is a long way. but weigh finish at the end of the week hopefully so we're pleased to have been able to take the first step in that direction today. >> anderson,et me tell you what's about to happen in a couple minutes. one of those amendments offered to the wary senators something that would add $100 billion for medicaid expansion state senators worried, more robust regulatory cutbacks will be on the senate floor for a vote in short order. that will fail. they will continue to debate and have a repeal on

anderson? >> as the president departs for france, he hasn't had any events since returning from germany saturday night. did the white house address that today? >> the president has been out of the public eye for four days now. a rare stretch for a sitting president. at the press briefing, deputy press secretary, sarah huckabee sanders addressed this. she said that just because the president isn't standing behind a podium doesn't mean he isn't communicating with the american public. she talked about the meetings he has been holding, and she said this -- >> there's nothing secret about having meetings, which i read off to you earlier with members of his staff and members of the administration. the president had an incredibly robust schedule overseas in both poland and germany and he's preparing to leave this afternoon, where he'll be spending quite a bit of time with a lot of those of you who are traveling and will be taking questions from you guys tomorrow. >> reporter: and of course the preside

>> reporter: what i'm hearing, anderson is best encapsulated by a source who speaks with the president frequently who says that you have to remember that everything should be viewed as the president receiving anything, any bit of news with the word russia in it through one prism, and that is the fact that he considers that an attempt to dee legitimatize his election to the white house. and, so, knowing that that is the context through which he receives information about anything, even and included information that is in black and white showing that his son was eager to take a meeting from somebody who said that they had information from the russian government. so, this is kind of gives you a window into the thinking of the president. and it also explains what he actually said in public to reuters, giving as you said, a new interview today saying he only learned, first of all, about the meeting a few days ago. but that he didn't fault his son for taking the meeting, saying, quote, many people would have held that meeting. now, you played one sound bite from his own fbi director nominee.

>> reporter: anderson, that's all we know this evening. the president sent out those urgent messages early this morning saying, look, you know, the military service will not be allowed -- any transgender member of the service will not be allowed to be an active member of the military. beyond that, it was left at that. there were background briefings today on what's going on in venezuela, a background briefing for administration officials on what's going on in the job announcement in wisconsin. anderson, for a major policy change like this, there was not a single background briefing. administration officials we talked to were, quite frankly, caught off guard, they could not answer basic questions, like what happens to active members of the military who may be serving in afghanistan or elsewhere, who are transgender individuals. it was clear this was an announcement that happened abruptly. it took people here on surprise, on capitol hill by surprise, and certainly at the pentagon by surprise. >> do we know which generals if any the president

anderson, tonight, we're still left with an uncertainty. does the president have confidence in his chief of staff? sarah huckabee sanders, the new press secretary, essentially didn't answer that and i caught up with her just a short time ago this evening outside of the white house here and she defended anthony scaramucci. she said he used a colorful language. he's passionate. he won't do it again. as we end this week at the white house, or begin to end this week, internal feuding and fighting is the story of the day. certainly overtaking their agenda. >> jeff, thank you very much. i want to bring back ryan lizza from "the new yorker." the new tweet was, "i made a mistake in trusting a reporter. it won't happen again." what's your response? >> i think he's taking the wrong lesson away from this. he's the communications director and when i called him and walked him through the piece and told him it would be hosting and i said, look, you're the communications director for the most powerful institution in the world. when you call a reporter and

there are question, anderson, about why he was there. the agalarov family nor their attorney has publicly said why as you pointed out in our last discussion, the attorney last week claimed that the agalarovs had nothing to do with the meeting even though they were mentioned in the e-mail exchange that don jr. released. but he says that his impression from speaking with the eighth person if we want to call him that over the phone, that he was initially there to make sure that the attorney, that the female russian attorney got to the meeting. there's still many questions and mystery continues to shroud who this person is. really the only person we know of that hasn't been publicly identified, anderson. >> yeah, you know, we talk about the agalarovs. i guess i just don't understand the attorney for him came for the agalarovs for the father and the son came forward last week. i spoke to him, and he basically said look, the agalarovs had nothing to do with this. the pop star's son knew there was an acquaintance with this russian attorney and

>> anderson, thanks for having me. i do not agree with that.we know that when interpreting the constitution, the words on the page are just the starting point. and literally entire libraries have been filled with what they mean and it's very clear, whatever school of interpretation you belong to, if you look at the history at the constitution, the structure of the constitution, the meaning, the intent, none of them suggest that something so absurd as a presidential self-pardon could be allowed. it stems from one of the most fundamental principles in american law. and that -- >> which is that -- >> that is that no person may be a judge in their own case. >> that no one is above the law. >> that is the core principle where government of laws, not of men, and so and the proof of it, anderson, is there's nobody, and jonathan and i actually agreed on this, there's nobody who says it would be a good idea for the president to do it. everybody thinks it's catastrophic. >> but being a good idea and being possible are two different things. >> right. and

anderson is presented in court tomorrow these documents will become available. >> now, anderson is charged with aggravated assault while armed. police are saying that this car was being used as a weapon. police are expected to release more information tomorrow. as a rule are the court documents and they also seized the vehicle for evidence. they say that the front windshield was cracked. that's being processed. police urge anyone with information about this hit and run accident to give them a call. call the d.c. police department. i'm shamari stone. back to you. >> thank you. sources say a has been arrested for a separate but similar crash as the one yesterday. he was allegedly behind the wheel when the dump truck injured a woman tuesday. sources tell us in 120 sa, alvarez seriously injured a gallaudet student who was walking in a crosswalk close to that crosswalk. he was charged in that crash but according to documents, he never showed up for trial. there was a bench warrant around issued for his arrest. >> he's a world war 2 veteran. couple of weeks ago dick cohen woke up to his flags in

we learn more in a moment from ann marie anderson.nd the shot is good. >> beautiful transition by larissa. the sand is hot today. the brazilians not wearing sand socks. lauren fendrick wearing sand socks. >> even the beach volleyball dance erps are wearing sand socks. let's meet the third member of our broadcast team. it's annen marie. >> thanks, chris. i did speak with april at the semifinal and huge. she said it don't hit her too much in that semifinal. but she did strain her left calf. why she is trying to treat her right toe, she is playing close attention to the left calf. that is the opposite leg of the toe injury. >> we'll keep an eye on there. that here comes april and larissa. blocked off her head. that's good. diving is ross. here comes talita. and she puts it away. >> are you kidding me? >> what a rally. >> larissa thought that was play was over and slowly came off her head and brazil is able to win the point. wow. >> excellent defense by larissa. >> literally. starts with a block deflection. pops back over. april ross gets

>> is it possible, anderson. they have adopted a theory that if we just lie and put tissue on tissue of lies upon each other that we'll get so confused the public will be so confused. the stories get really down in the weeds about who was who in the public can't follow it. and if they can maintain their base they think they can get through it. maybe that's what they're doing. i think it's a very mistaken theory if they have that. there's a direct line from the kind of lying they have been doing to the drop in his opinion polls to 36% in the washington post. to his difficulty in persuading senators to sign up for the healthcare bill. when you're at 36% that's the perception you're a weak president. it's much harder to ask senators to take hard votes. >> jeff, is it -- do you agree that sean spicer said something that's not true. >> i will say this. i do think when you're getting your message out, whatever it is. it should be clear and crystal and out there from a to z. everybody should be on the same page. >> he s

>> anderson, it's scheduled to happen sometime next week. leader in can consequently said that on the floor of the senate late this afternoon. and earlier in the day, he promised that even though they are facing another setback, he is committed to finding a way forward on health care. take a listen. >> i believe we must continue to push forward now. i regret that the effort to repeal and immediately replace the failures of obamacare will not be successful. that doesn't mean we should give up. we will now try a different way to bring the american people relief from obamacare. i think we owe them at least that much. >> but the problem that mcconnell has right now is that the votes simply aren't there. there are now at least four republican senators who say they will not vote for a straight repeal. even though, mcconnell seems very content to put this bill on the floor for an up or down vote at least to start the debate process. if that happens, unless something changes between now and the beginning of next week, it will likely fail. >> what ab

anderson's next. >>> good evening. if you thought the white house seemed chaotic with the drama over sean spicer and jeff sessions, wait until you hear what the new communications director has to say about the chief of staff and steve bannon. suffice it to say there's not a lot of collegiality in the president's inner circle tonight. >>> the future of health care in the country, brianna keilar joins me now. addressing concern from four prominent republican senators about the vote on a skinny bill. explain what's gone on. >> that's right. the senate, anderson, is in a very weird position, and that is that the bill that the republicans do feel confident they can get the 50 votes that they need for this skinny repeal, they don't actually want it to become law. that is very unusual. and so what they want to do instead is use this as just a vehicle to get to what's called a conference committee, where they get together with house republicans and hash out a bill that the entire congress could pass. so they're not really in l

>> brace yourself, anderson, i agree with you. >> what? wow! >> look, the story, as i was hearing it throughout the day, was this lunch with senators and this conversation. >> right. >> and that was a-plus. >> was our lead tonight. >> and jeff sessions aside, it's just another story that should have been a story for another day. that said, he is who he is. and this is part of his -- >> the grudges, the vengeance. >> that's the popeye defense. i yam what i yam. >> i am what i am. i'm a blunt spoken new yorker. >> it's not just being blunt. it's about thinking that anyone in your orbit, anyone who works for you is -- should be loyal to you, not to the job, not to the constitution, but to you. jeff sessions recused himself, not because -- what the president left out in what he was saying is that he recused himself because he answered a question from al franken in a senate committee hearing where he basically said a falsehood about his own contacts with russia, which implicated him in the investigation, which meant he had to recuse himself. >> it's

that said, anderson, for all of the talk that we're doing at this, there's no there there here. i mean colluded to do what, carry pennsylvania? pennsylvania was carried because pennsylvanians were upset about jobs, trade, health care, else. i would go to these rallies. not a single person mentioned russia to me, not one. >> no, but isn't the there there -- i mean it's -- no one is saying that ballot boxes were missed with. >> well, the implication is -- >> well, no, but to me it is more about the future and figuring out what happened this past time in terms of what did the russians actually do and what is going to happen the next time and what's going to happen in europe and understanding the mo of russian intelligence seems there's value in that. >> there's another implication though. there's an implication -- and we don't know what happened, but there's an implication that someone was helping the russians figure out how to target certain districts with certain fake news. >> right. we had a former intelligence guy on last night -- or tonight. >> so the idea that nobody mentione

. >> and that's exactly the point, anderson. if, in fact, it was no big deal, why did he perjury himself then trying to cover it up? if this is true, that's exactly what happened. so put aside how damaging and damming this is for jeff sessions and the trump administration, this is a big deal and jeff sessions could be in big trouble legally because if it is true, you know -- i thought the first time around he p perjured himself because he lied. but this is true if these meetings happened he willfully perjured himself before congress. >> i have a hard time believing a man like jeff sessions would willfully perjure himself in the way you are discussing. we sat here for months listening to people say, the russians are bad, you can't trust the russians, they're all liars. tonight we hear, we have to take the russian's words as the gospel when it is pointed out sometimes they lie and embellish. all we know is kizliak word versus the justice department's statement is, which they deny any wrong doing in this conversation. he raised tha

but anderson, i was struck thinking back on all this. one of the reasons i think reince priebus had such a tough job because the chief of staff's office is in the west wing corner, not far from the oval office at all. it's intended to be within a 10 second walk to the oval office, to keep an eye on who goes in, to be the ultimate gate keeper. reince priebus could not be the gate keeper because the president was talking to everyone on the phone. he had everyone else's ear. and at the end, anderson, for months i'm told, the president viewed the chief of staff as weak, someone he did not want to be in the same room with him at times. so it became untenable. in many respects it's aremazingt lashed this long . >> gloria. >> you know, i've been told that the president has been seriously considering whether he wants to keep steve bannon over at the white house, anderson. and that he has spoken -- one of the things that has saved steve bannon is that he spoke to conservatives who said to him don't do it. don't get rid of steve bannon because it'

>> and that's exactly the point, anderson. if, in fact, it was no big deal, why did he perjure himself then, trying to cover it up? if this is true, that's exactly what happened. so put aside how damaging and damning this is for jeff sessions and the trump administration. this is a big deal. and jeff sessions could be in big trouble legally, because if it is true, you know, i thought the first time around that he had perjured himself because he had lied. but this is proof that if these meetings happened he willfully perjured himself before congress. >> i have a hard time believing a man like jeff sessions would willfully perjure himself in the way you're sitting here discussing. look, we sat here for months and have listened to people say the russians are bad, you can't trust the russians, the russians are all liars. tonight we hear we got to take this russian's word as the gospel when the story points out that sometimes they lie, sometimes they embellish. right now all we know is kislyak's word versus whatever the justice dep

it's sad, anderson.ewers judge who decided you're 13 place behind nick at night. >> it's funny you have enough time in the white house that you're able to sit around and get nielsen numbers. >> i get really good prep from my team because the white house prep team is absurd. >> somebody at the white house is obsessed with nick at night. they talk about that one a lot. it's funny, but theres also some talk out there about whether or not it's helpful to have sebastian gorka and kellyanne conway on, because if it actually helps the public understand anything about policy or what's going on in the white house. >> look, he certainly came prepared to that interview with some facts that he wanted to throw at anderson or certainly some opinions he wanted to throw at anderson about ratings, about what he refers to and the president refers to as fake news. i think it's important for we as journalists to ignore the insults which anderson specifically said and did. it's important for us to focus on policy. i think if

anderson, anderson, talking about transparency, i just posted an article at the american spectator.search, i came across an interview with dick morris which he says that president clinton personally in 1996, meddled and colluded, if you will, in the russian collection to elect boris yeltsin. one of the major -- >> you're going by dick morris? dick morris is your source on this? >> decades later, we find a situation where bill clinton's wife is the democratic nominee for president. it had nothing to do with donald trump. [ overlapping speakers ] >> is he the best source on this? >> look, this is dick morris saying that -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> what we are saying is it's okay for foreign powers to interject in our elections because a president took a foreign policy position. [ overlapping speakers ]. >> being sold to a russian owned company. >> that's false. >> that to me -- just been false. >> just not true. >> false, you might like to pedal fake news. that its not true. >> that's a real national security issue. >> to paraphrase kellyanne conway, a trip down memory lane. can we

>> well, anderson, there are some significant changes to the bill. this is by no means the dramatic overhaul that many senators were looking for. let's give you a few of the highlights. this is a 172-page bill. one of the top lines, there's going to be an option for people to buy cheaper plans with fewer benefits. you'll be able to use health savings accounts to pay for your premiums without a tax penalty. there is $45 billion set aside for substance abuse and opioid treatment. this is a keep provision for a couple of senators that are wavering. the big problem with this bill, though, for moderates is the fact that it maintains the deep medicaid cuts that the original bill had in place. that's why there are some that are still sitting on the fence. finally, there is no repeal on the taxes for the most wealthy earners. there are tax cuts in this bill, but the investment tax that was a key provision that some moderates dmot want to be in this bill is no longer in it. at this point, anderson, there are still many republicans digesting this and trying to

going back into that climate accord here, anderson. it was striking watching those two leaders, one 71-year-old president from the united states, one 39-year-old new leader here in france. they both have a lot to gain of being together here. tomorrow they will be together again in the morning for the bastille day parade. you got the sense that the president has used paris as a punch line. so often when he was running for office. today he was filled with flattering his host. >> jeff, thanks very much. lots to discuss. charles, amy, jeffrey lord and scott jennings. charles, first, on the whole idea that something could happen on the paris climate accord. the president has pulled out of the paris climate accord. when he did, he said maybe we can renegotiate something. the idea that he's going to suddenly backtrack seems ludicrous. >> there's no need for us to struggle to try to make this make sense. the president says whatever pleases the audience that he's pandering to. that's what he does. so whether or not it is true, whether or not it

>> well, they're just hearing this news now, anderson. it's tough news, so they're processing but determining the type of treatment we'll likely get next, which is typically a combination of chemotherapy and radiation. that type of treatment typically can't stop until his wounds have healed from this operation in three or four weeks. so he may be able to travel a little back and forth, but with this diagnosis, all attention is going to be on his treatment upcoming. >> sanjay, thank you very much for that. obviously our thoughts and prayers are with the senator and his family and just getting to know him over the last several years. there's nobody tougher than he is. so we wish him the best in this fight. president obama has just tweeted, john mccain is an american hero, one of the bravest fighters i've ever known. kansas herb docancer doesn't kn ups against. >>> the president weighs in about attorney general sessions. >> sessions gets the job. right after he gets the job, he recuses himself. s is was th >> was that a mistake? >> he never