would have put all of those troo that were in iraq, i would have put them in afghantan -- >> where andfghanistan? >> captured the tiban that ra bora -- can i finish what i was sayin i said last week that i ha no courage of my coiction as to what is right re. and iemain an back. e president is -- i don't think any president shld be heed into a policy that he may ce to regret. and if he thinks it is not worth the cdle, he should change the policy. >> colby, tacticaluestion. what happens if we pl out? >> it ll represent militarily a defe. thealiban will be there and al al qaeda will have another but it all depends on what t endgame is gng to be there in concned. what ds the actual one to achieve? we could redefine e goals, and not just politicareasons, ut strategic reans. is it possib to degradehe talibato a point where the talin will not pose a particular threat in afghanistan and pakistan andan they do this militarily ana way otr than having a large number of troops in the ground? george will suggted there was pushedack. think obama has to really refined what he wants to hieve and then sell that

. >> just getting back to iran, both iran andfghanistan have also been loyal by-elecons. they have n convince people thathey are free and fair, s there's a lot of unrest ju among people who otherwi we woulbe able to -- >> obamais in a very in difficult position that he has to deal th two peop of dubioulection attention in iran and in afghanistan, an yet, he is goingo he to deal with tm. unlesshere is a runofin afghanistan, d that ll not be any more fr or will be paid anthis one has been. and maybe we are too anxious to have eleions. r enthusiasm for democracy ru beyond our cception of the ability to have effective democracy. first stage is elections, and the second stage is to give som pluraly that will keep the democry democratic. >>hen i was listening to the president is past week before a joint session of congress, had to sit and think, how long will it beefore he is back here before anotr address to convince lawkers that need to send te of thousandmore troops to afghanist? >> i think tt is going to happen versoon. i would imine that even sometime this fall, he is goin