slepian georgia mr james wood all and dr andre m. perry author and fellow at the metropolitan policy program at the brookings institute thank you both for coming on today. so look over probably have overcrowding lack of proper medical care or unsanitary living conditions were already major issues in the u.s. prison system how is covert 19 exacerbated these existing issues dr perry your thoughts. well if you mentioned it there were looted prisons art. that. where its product. areas. are. areas. they are also. areas people have little recourse and so we need to look or examine the conditions in prisons in and we need to socially distance people and create the kind of conditions that enable people to thrive and so. the short of it is that prisons are in the main places that that are conducive for virus spread and other illnesses. and james is here in washington d.c. a family of an inmate recently died from cobain while being held in north carolina wasn't informed of his death by the bureau of prisons and to over 100 days after it occurred we