andre perry has worked with charter programs in louisiana, and is currently the dean of urban education davenport university in michigan. a p hurricanesd student who grew up in mississippi. he supports investing in education. welcome toe the stream. >> richard, i want to start with you, there are a number of charter schools particularly in the south, with if you look at the demographic makeup, they are not particularly racially diverse. and that's leading some people to conclude, that charter schools are contributing to a resegregation of america. absolutely. >> sew the thing about charter schools is because they are not neighborhood schools the potential is they could be much more integrated. the last two -- they choose to go further from home, to an integrated charter school. research from ucla and other places has found that our regular public schools are already very segregated and charter schools are even more segregated. we have a lot popping up, that are designs for a particular group. you will have some charter schools that are aimed primarily at whites and that's a problem not