>> andrea, both republicans and democrats have served as secretary of state before, jim baker and hillary clinton come to mind, they both checked politics at the door and put the interests of the american people first. what we've seen from mike pompeo throughout this episode is that he serves one person and one person only, that's donald trump. he doesn't serve the interests of the united states. he's prepared to throw u.s. foreign service officers under the bus. this is just further indication that this administration is not focused on the national interests of the united states. they're focused on the personal interests of the president. and we're all suffering as a result of it. >> you know, there are 75,000 state department employees, i don't need to tell you, jake and roberta, ambassador jacobson, you've both been at the highest levels of the state department, and as jake points out, i've never seen it this political. john kerry was a senator and a secretary of state. you've worked under republicans. >> six presidents. and i think, you know, we often talk about that quaint saying, po