>> andrea: wow!employment went up. >> bob: it would have gone up to 13%. >> dana: corzine's approach to governing helped lead to governor chris christie win in new jersey. but i do think that the company that corzine lost control of, and now the question of did they use customer money when they knew it was failing in an inappropriate way, so there could be criminal problems going forward. it doesn't fit the narrative of the media of the greedy wall street banker on the republican side of things. if it had, i think a lot more of the mainstream media would have covered it. >> bob: y'all wouldn't be jumping on this guy, be before he became governor. he used $200 million of his own money he made in your capitalist system. when he was at goldman sachs i bet you thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. >> eric: i don't have a problem with a guy work manage the private sector not taking bail-out money, this is prior to that. no problem. he got paid. whatever. when he took the money and got hims

>> andrea: no. >> bob: why? >> andrea: we don't have it anymore.the president take recommendation of his deficit committee if he is serious about entitlements? >> bob: he should have. >> andrea: why didn't he? this is all about him winning. he is moving left. we are not going on the fancy bin laden raids if he keeps gutting the military. >> greg: he only said, "fair share" twice yesterday but replaced with a "balanced approach." "balanced approach" is code for fair share, code for give me your money. he is moving it further and further. >> eric: i notice you didn't point out obama was absent throughout it. >> bob: he was asked to be absent by the congressional leadership. >> kimberly: follow up on that. when he did show up, rather quickly right after the -- right. listen to what he has to say. >> some in congress is trying to undo the automatic spending cuts. my message to them is simple. no. i will veto any effort to get rid of the automatic spending cuts, domestic and defense spending. there will be no easy off-ramps on this one. >> andrea: leftw

>> andrea: wow!: unemployment went up. >> bob: it would have gone up to 13%. >> dana: corzine's approach to governing helped lead to governor chris christie win in new jersey. but i do think that the company that corzine lost control of, and now the question of did they use customer money when they knew it was failing in an inappropriate way, so there could be criminal problems going forward. it doesn't fit the narrative of the media of the greedy wall street banker on the republican side of things. if it had, i think a lot more of the mainstream media would have covered it. >> bob: y'all wouldn't be jumping on this guy, be before he became governor. he used $200 million of his own money he made in your capitalist system. when he was at goldman sachs i bet you thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. >> eric: i don't have a problem with a guy work manage the private sector not taking bail-out money, this is prior to that. no problem. he got paid. whatever. when he took the money and got

ia he is shad -- >> andrea: he is shadow boxing. no sources in front of us and we'll probably never find out who the women are. if this turns out to be false, i have a sense it will. politico has egg on its face. they have a responsible to come forward and tell us who these women are. what if i said jonathan martin of politico, you went to college once. i can't tell you what they are. it's a private manner. it's a distraction. that's what we heard when it was bill clinton. he paid paula jones off. $700,000 to $800,000. if they get this wrong, they handed him a -- >> kimberly: boomerang on him. >> bob: presidential campaigns, when i ran mondale's stuff we get anonymous stuff on other candidates all the time. i think you will find the names out. every press outlet is all over cain. >> andrea: they're not coming forward, the women. they can't. >> bob: i'm not sure. if this is cain they will pick at him from here on out. i'll hold the press conference and say i'll answer all the questions you've got. he has to get it back off the track

>> andrea: yeah.ican people have the right to make their own decision. butt out. >> bob: i'll say in defense of bob schaefer. he's one of the most decent human beings i met in my life. i didn't know he had cancer. look at the pigture of cain's campaign manager. talk about a guy that got lost. he is a strange cat. this guy campaigned for us in wisconsin. nobody is allowed to do campaign. that rule, nobody applied it. >> andrea: you think somebody said that about you when you were a campaign manager? >> bob: i'm sure they did. >> andrea: we don't want to get into that. up next on "the five," south carolina sheriff says all women. andrea, get your gun. you tell me i should? we love the idea. tell us why next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: hey. welcome back to "the five." so a south carolina sheriff is urging women to get -- [ inaudible ] telling women to pack a .450 because they would haven't to be accurate. just close. guns make a bigger hole than mace and unlike rape whistle they provide instant ventilation. wright

>> andrea: no. >> brian: i like that it's chris christie but it's nothing new. >> andrea: anyone whomself. christie was being honest. obama will have the money. he has the machine behind him that got elected in the first place. he has a bully pulpit and he will be campaigning which is what he does best. i still think he has to overcome the staggering unemployment numbers. but christie is speaking the truth. he is telling republicans, too, don't get too cocky. you have to start lowering the bar yourself. really fighting hard. it's not easy. >> brian: i think when you look on taking on president obama i don't think anyone looks at him as not formidable. what obama doesn't have is lack of track record. he has a track record and huge resume now. a lot of decisions and might run from. >> eric: big one. 9% unemployment. christie did note that that is going to be, that is his achilles. no matter if he raises billion dollars or romney, romneycare and the other issues. i can't feasibly see a way he gets re-elected with 9% unemployment. 14 million people out of work no, way. you you can put bo

>> andrea: that is so not true. >> bob: it's so true. >> andrea: you know what?ave long legs, baby, but not that long. >> dana: i asked today what people's pet peeves are on they had a lot. one is they asked parents not comment on their facebook page. >> kimberly: can you imagine? >> dana: does your kid have a facebook page? >> eric: you're supposed to be 16. he is not supposed to but he does. it's the same name. people sign on to his facebook thinking they are looking for me. i shouldn't say this yesterday. there is one computer and everybody is playing on it. i opened it up and my son's facebook page is on there. wow! what an eye opener. if you haven't done it, go check out what your kids are doing. the 13-year-old girls, what they are wearing and posting. >> kimberly: so inappropriate. >> bob: if you have a kid and he drives, plant a bug. we have to change the topics here. has anybody else besides me hit up at a workplace, by somebody who wants to sell their kids? that came out the wrong way. girl scout cookies. terrible anyway. >> kimberly: all the time. >> b

>> bob: no. >> andrea: why not?e tea party people you talk about, i wonder how many of them have take an home mortgage deduction or taken pel grants for their kids. government entitlement. i am suspicious that tea party people are straight on all of this. >> greg: you could be suspicious but you would be wrong. >> bob: you don't think they take deduction? >> eric: it's there. one of your liberal heroes lately, warren buffett. does he fight for lower taxes on the corporation? of course he does. fights for it. >> bob: food stamps are there. g they are not asking for bail outs. >> andrea: news that came out, new york state is now facing a budget shortfall. why? all the wall street millionaires and billionaire lost their job, had the salaries slashed and we can't support the welfare state. the wall street guys come in handy sometimes. >> bob: 40 some states are at deficit. wall street hurt your welfare state. >> bob: wall street is not hurting. they have had the biggest profits they have ever had this last year. >> greg

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they are there. >> andrea: i think they want to run against romney. >> kimberly: they do. >> andrea:nt on the new question. what should obama do about it? we have advice for you next. ♪ ♪ music music music we're centurylink we're committed to improving lives and linking americans to what matters most with honest personal service 5 year price lock guarantees, consistantly fast speeds and more ways to customise your technology delivering mail, medicine and packages. yet they're closing thousands of offices, slashing service, and want to lay off over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem ? a burden no other agency or company bears. a 2006 law that drains 5 billion a year from post-office revenue while the postal service is forced to overpay billions more into federal accounts. congress created this problem, and congress can fix it. ♪ ♪ >> eric: welcome back to "the five." iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad, reacting to today's international atomic energy agency. islamic dictator proclaimed iran won't retrea

did you, andrea? >> andrea: i think he had to do it. he did it with humility.esterday. in politics, the saying when you are explaining, you're losing. when he explains, stop explaining. >> do you forgive him? >> greg: i do. but he did nine shows. the only show he didn't do was loclockup. it seem like he is on a first date with america. just makes you feel kind of uncomfortable, like he is not quite comfortable being wit himself. that is a problem. >> juan: everybody has a brain freeze. you have a human sympathy for him and you want him to do well, but the problem is he keeps doing it. at some point if you keep throwing up on yourself, the first time i say oh, let me help you feel better. but if you keep doing it, i think maybe you shouldn't be here. maybe you shouldn't do this job. >> kimberly: not recoverable. >> juan: the problem is he has had bad performances in the debate. he gave a speech where the talk was he had a back problem. looked like he -- >> kimberly: he lost his confidence. that is the problem. confident as governor but not confident as president

it called you andrea. >> andrea: i was wondering where your eyes were? wondering eye.her 12-year-old daughter had a friend over and they were, she was staying the night and they were watching "glee" and she was with them. she said it was so awkward and embarrassing it was not a family appropriate show for her family. >> bob: graham, do you watch "glee" a lot? >> bob: i do, pete. i don't know -- i never heard of it and i've never seen it. i don't care about it, but i did tease the porn star. we'll cover it tomorrow. we'll get back to porn store tomorrow, she is a lovely lad lady. >> andrea: you have thoughts to share. >> eric: e-mail earlier today, "glee" and i e-mail back and said it's the feeling you get when the white house calls you on your blackberry. >> bob: very funny. >> andrea: by the way, brian kilmeade, i think when "glee" started off people like for the music. >> dana: that's why they like "american idol." >> andrea: this is going too far. >> greg: that's why i like "60 minutes," it's the music. >> bob: that's why you watch andy rooney. >> greg: people sex.

>> andrea: oops.re. >> bob: i was trying to stick up for andrea's brother. a great guy. he is not a right winger. >> andrea: he is. >> bob: he is? well, he's greek. we'll be taxed here for a special thanksgiving day show. right here. 5:00 tomorrow. we're working. please join us. there is a video homeland security put out to warn people about turkey -- >> dana: fryers. >> eric: fryers. we'll be right back. >> bob: turkey friars. ♪ ♪  a wlap ♪ ♪ >> dana: thanks for staying with us. are you cooking a turkey tomorrow? if you are, the homeland security department wantous to take a look at this video. this is warning americans about the danger of turkey deep fryers. see if you drop a turkey in the friar, sometimes it can catch fire. by the way, i didn't even know that homeland security was responsible for keeping us safe when we're cooking. the height of ridiculousness of the homeland security department? >> eric: i wish the homeland security was worried about our borders as they were about the turkey the

>> andrea: nancy grace?na: stop it, bob. >> greg: i got to say, it depresses me if you have to apologize over something innocuous like this. our country is becoming a nation of whiners and cry babies. >> bob: but this is the presidency you are talking about. you don't see many people use stuff like that. if you are in the house of representatives or the united states senate. >> andrea: typically you have the surrogates do it. sling the mud. >> bob: listen, herman has taken over the moniker of newt gingrich, which he never had an unspoken thought. that is part of his problem. >> andrea: neither have you. >> bob: i'm not running for president, obviously. >> kimberly: i thought he did well last night. >> greg: we have to take a break. coming up, newt slams the money, honey. maria bartaromo last night. we'll play for you. bob is looking for kittens to adopt. if you have ideas, e-mail us at thefive@foxnews.com. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you love the taste of 2% milk. but think about your heart. 2% has over half the

did you, andrea? >> andrea: i think he had to do it. he did it with humility.esterday. in politics, the saying when you are explaining, you're losing. when he explains, stop explaining. >> do you forgive him? >> greg: i do. but he did nine shows. the only show he didn't do was loclockup. it seem like he is on a first date with america. just makes you feel kind of uncomfortable, like he is not quite comfortable being wit himself. that is a problem. >> juan: everybody has a brain freeze. you have a human sympathy for him and you want him to do well, but the problem is he keeps doing it. at some point if you keep throwing up on yourself, the first time i say oh, let me help you feel better. but if you keep doing it, i think maybe you shouldn't be here. maybe you shouldn't do this job. >> kimberly: not recoverable. >> juan: the problem is he has had bad performances in the debate. he gave a speech where the talk was he had a back problem. looked like he -- >> kimberly: he lost his confidence. that is the problem. confident as governor but not confident as president

kim what about the campaign season, andrea?t there is a cloud over him and that could be problematic. so far, romney is squeaky clean. >> eric: he will have his day. >> bob: by the way -- he gave romney a little pass there. he said oh, sure, romney was just -- who are we kidding? romney tried to draw attention to it. >> andrea: it depends what happens on the way to iowa. >> bob: tease. >> kimberly: more on herman cain's press conference up next when we come right back. stay with "the five." ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] our nation's veterans are real-life heroes. but when they come home, they don't want a parade; they want a job. the postal service employs more veterans than any other civilian employer. but congress is debating a bill that would force the postal service to fire tens of thousands of vets, close post offices, shut mail processing plants, and disrupt mail delivery. drastic cuts won't fix the postal service and aren't needed. tell your representative to vote "no" on house resolution 2309. it's time to deliver for our vete