and in new york, andree dobriansky, activist for ukrainian with ukrainian congress committee of america. welcome. let me start with you, simon. do you believe that this violence that started yesterday is a turning point. >> i believe for some of the raddicals on both sides it is a turning point, to the burning of the bridges. you can go back to business as usual with 340 injured, you can't go back to business as usual and pretend to sign a truth. for some of these people they reached the point of no return. i understand that dollar hawks pushing him and ultra radical elements within the protest movement that has reached the point of no return. >> as far as the region is concerned, what is at stake for russia? >> vladimir putin, and a significant part of his r -- retinue treat ukraine as a broader part of russia. i don't agree with that, but that's the perception. they feel without ukraine russia will not be able to complete its resurgence, so the kremlin is trying to draw ukraine closer into its orbit as it plans to form a new union. without the sentimental feeling, it's a natural inter