andreessen horowitz, benchmark, kleiner? vinod: we tend to be much broader.will do impossible foods. we will do rocketry like rocket lab. we will do hard science. we do very unusual things. robotics, semiconductors, even nuclear projects. emily: you believe that most vc's hurt companies, not help them. what do you mean by that? vinod: applying traditional business flow metrics to start ups is the wrong thing. when people focus on irr's and rates of return, they actually hurt the company. i don't believe just because you are an investor, you have earned the right to advise an entrepreneur by being a board member. you should have started a company, knowing how hard it is, how difficult the trade-offs are. it is painful being an entrepreneur. life is not easy. unless you have empathy, you do not have the right to advise and -- an entrepreneur, in my view. one rule i have in 30 years, i , have never voted against an entrepreneur. they do not need hypocritical politeness from board members. and not help them think through the risks they will face and challenge the